Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby NAB » Apr 19th, 2012, 11:31 am

Ya, but we are talking about the attempted smuggling of 43 TONNES of hash from Pakistan here into Canada's main population centres. Pretty cheap stuff to produce and get here on an illicit basis I would venture no matter what local products it would compete with on both the price and availability fronts. And lets not forget that in the perfect pot world of some, the government would be adding taxes at all levels, ...so I really think illicit importation and illicit distribution of cheap offshore produced product would still capture a large percentage of the eastern market.

What's more, when it comes to "getting tough on crime and criminals" how often the conversation immediately turns to making it look like the small time weed user is the only target of the war on crime, particularly drug crime, ...along with the constant misinformation and hyperbole associated with that and the penalties involved.

By the way, the complexity surrounding "the war on drugs" is not so much what we are or should be doing in Canada, but what is going on in the international supply side countries. No question getting that under control isn't working, even where some degree of legalization as to local consumption has been tried, ... and I think that's what Harper was referring to moreso than our efforts here at home.

Personally speaking, I could care less whether one is smuggling pot, cigarettes, people, or TV sets across international borders. It to me is equally wrong and criminal, regardless of the treatment applied to the legitimate domestic supply and trade/distribution in the same or similar products.

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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby twobits » Apr 20th, 2012, 10:05 am

NAB wrote:Ya, but we are talking about the attempted smuggling of 43 TONNES of hash from Pakistan here into Canada's main population centres. Pretty cheap stuff to produce and get here on an illicit basis I would venture no matter what local products it would compete with on both the price and availability fronts. And lets not forget that in the perfect pot world of some, the government would be adding taxes at all levels, ...so I really think illicit importation and illicit distribution of cheap offshore produced product would still capture a large percentage of the eastern market.

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Nab, it's just as cheap to produce here. It is all about profits and even presuming that gov't taxes etc would make the end price of Gov't controlled weed on par or even slightly more than illegally imported stuff, the profits would be going to the taxpayers, not drug lords and gangs that use that wealth to control the supply and lucrative profits with violence. Users would migrate to the legal supply simply because it is legal. Witness the cheap production costs of alcohol and the relativley high retail prices. Stills are virtually non existant becasue there is little demand for the illegal product..... the smuggling that does happen is less than a fraction of one percent of total sales and seems to be confined to a couple of cross border Native reserves that also like to dabble in duty free smokes as well. I am so convinced that legalizing would instantly cut groups like the Hell's Angels off at the knees instantly that I am sure they are contributors to the Conservatives election efforts. They are very smart business people and know very well that our current laws are the butter on their bread. Hell, the Conservatives just increased the demand for Hell's Angels weed by making it a mandatory 2 yr jail sentence for responsible people that would grow 6 plants for their own use. That minimum sentence will do nothing to stop the 1000 plant grow ops. Instead, wouldn't logic dictate that if you wanted to bite into the demand for their illegal weed, you would allow every person the legal right to grow and possess up to 6 plants on private property? No....intsead we throw them in jail and give the gangs an even stronger monopoly. That ought to fix things eh?
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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby jennylives » Apr 20th, 2012, 10:09 am

I want to know two things. Why can't we make our own hash and when are they mailing out our share?
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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby Corneliousrooster » Apr 20th, 2012, 10:47 am

jennylives wrote:I want to know two things. Why can't we make our own hash and when are they mailing out our share?


We can make our own hash - you could make your own hash (their are multip0le recipes all over the internet)

Hash is usually made out of inferior product (they are not making it out of hydroponically grown preemo in afganistan) - they are just maximizing their profit out of what would not be marketable in this country if they were offering up their outdoor weed - not to mention, the bulk of trying to export the volume of weed as opposed to hash (43 tonnes of hash would look much smaller than 43 tonnes of dried bud)
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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby SassySasquatch » Apr 20th, 2012, 11:36 pm

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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby D suzuki » Apr 21st, 2012, 6:41 am

it is kinda silly to import hash when we have the best bud in the world :coffeecanuck:
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Re: Enough hashish to drug all of Canada: 43 tonnes!

Postby twobits » Apr 21st, 2012, 8:00 am

D suzuki wrote:it is kinda silly to import hash when we have the best bud in the world :coffeecanuck:


Hash crumbled and mixed with tobbaco and then rolled into a cigarette is very popular with the Quebcois. You see a lot of the fruit pickers doing it here.
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