Wedding music will cost you now (royalties)
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Wedding music will cost you now (royalties)
Wedding music will cost you
The Canadian Press - Story: 75933
May 31, 2012 / 2:30 pm
TORONTO - Money can't buy love but if you want some great tunes playing at your wedding, it's going to cost you.
The Copyright Board of Canada has certified new tariffs that apply to recorded music used at live events including conventions, karaoke bars, ice shows, fairs and, yes, weddings. The fees will be collected by a not-for-profit called Re:Sound.
While the Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada (otherwise known as SOCAN) already collects money from many of these events for the songwriters, Re:Sound will represent the record labels and performers who contributed to the music.
"Recorded music is a vital part of the business model for many live events and, indeed, it is impossible to imagine a fashion show, festival, parade or karaoke bar without music," Re:Sound's director of licensing, Martin Gangnier, said in a statement.
It's up to organizers of public events or owners of wedding venues or bars to pay those royalties, so it may be up to the business to decide whether to pass that cost on — for instance, to those happy newlyweds.
"Essentially it's up the business that owes the royalty to decide exactly what their accounting will be, where it comes from," said Re:Sound director of communications Matthew Fortier in a telephone interview.
The reporting process works on the honour system — it's up to the businesses to tell Re:Sound how much music they've used — though Fortier said his organization has a team of licensing professionals across Canada to ensure the rules are being followed.
The fees vary depending on the size of the audience and the type of event.
For weddings, receptions, conventions, assemblies and fashion shows, the fee is $9.25 per day if fewer than 100 people are present and goes up to $39.33 for crowds of more than 500 people. If there's dancing, the fees double.
Karaoke bars will pay between $86.06 and $124 annually depending on how many days per week they permit the amateur crooning.
And parades, meanwhile, will be charged $4.39 for each float with recorded music participating in the parade, subject to a minimum fee of $32.55 per day.
IMO: This is really getting stupid now, looks like A&W will have to pay(recorded music) car shows, can't play music, no music at a flea market, if i take my portable cd player to the beach are they going to charge me royalties also. GREED is the name of the game now. Millionaire musicians nickel and dimming everything now. Even the musicians that have passed on want more money. Thank goodness for TPB
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... .htm#75933
The Canadian Press - Story: 75933
May 31, 2012 / 2:30 pm
TORONTO - Money can't buy love but if you want some great tunes playing at your wedding, it's going to cost you.
The Copyright Board of Canada has certified new tariffs that apply to recorded music used at live events including conventions, karaoke bars, ice shows, fairs and, yes, weddings. The fees will be collected by a not-for-profit called Re:Sound.
While the Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada (otherwise known as SOCAN) already collects money from many of these events for the songwriters, Re:Sound will represent the record labels and performers who contributed to the music.
"Recorded music is a vital part of the business model for many live events and, indeed, it is impossible to imagine a fashion show, festival, parade or karaoke bar without music," Re:Sound's director of licensing, Martin Gangnier, said in a statement.
It's up to organizers of public events or owners of wedding venues or bars to pay those royalties, so it may be up to the business to decide whether to pass that cost on — for instance, to those happy newlyweds.
"Essentially it's up the business that owes the royalty to decide exactly what their accounting will be, where it comes from," said Re:Sound director of communications Matthew Fortier in a telephone interview.
The reporting process works on the honour system — it's up to the businesses to tell Re:Sound how much music they've used — though Fortier said his organization has a team of licensing professionals across Canada to ensure the rules are being followed.
The fees vary depending on the size of the audience and the type of event.
For weddings, receptions, conventions, assemblies and fashion shows, the fee is $9.25 per day if fewer than 100 people are present and goes up to $39.33 for crowds of more than 500 people. If there's dancing, the fees double.
Karaoke bars will pay between $86.06 and $124 annually depending on how many days per week they permit the amateur crooning.
And parades, meanwhile, will be charged $4.39 for each float with recorded music participating in the parade, subject to a minimum fee of $32.55 per day.
IMO: This is really getting stupid now, looks like A&W will have to pay(recorded music) car shows, can't play music, no music at a flea market, if i take my portable cd player to the beach are they going to charge me royalties also. GREED is the name of the game now. Millionaire musicians nickel and dimming everything now. Even the musicians that have passed on want more money. Thank goodness for TPB
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... .htm#75933
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Re: Wedding music will cost you now(royalties)
Not any more worrying than teachers playing the old VHS Disney movies in classrooms without paying royalties, or people not sending in the taxes on their garage sale incomes.
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OnTheRoadAgain wrote:Not any more worrying than teachers playing the old VHS Disney movies in classrooms without paying royalties, or people not sending in the taxes on their garage sale incomes.
There is no taxes on garage sales, flea-markets, unless you go over a certain amount a yr.
Looks like i will have to break out my old reel to reel and 8 track players now, i wonder if they will charge me royalties for playing recorded music in my own house with 25 guests on my 60th birthday?
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Of course, you should pay. You are profiting from their music. Profiting from the benefit of the soul to have a birthday party and sharing your favourite tunes with friends. ;) Laws are only as good as their ability and likelihood to be enforced.
Every time a vehicle sells, it must be registered to the new owner.
This is a tax law that is easily enforced. Every time somebody buys that vehicle they will pay tax on it again.
This law is not really enforceable.
Every time a vehicle sells, it must be registered to the new owner.
This is a tax law that is easily enforced. Every time somebody buys that vehicle they will pay tax on it again.
This law is not really enforceable.
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Re: Wedding music will cost you now(royalties)
OnTheRoadAgain wrote:Of course, you should pay. You are profiting from their music. Profiting from the benefit of the soul to have a birthday party and sharing your favourite tunes with friends. ;) Laws are only as good as their ability and likelihood to be enforced.
Every time a vehicle sells, it must be registered to the new owner.
This is a tax law that is easily enforced. Every time somebody buys that vehicle they will pay tax on it again.
This law is not really enforceable.
Not under common law and the right to travel....look it up and learn. :)
Also when i was younger i would pay the seller what he wanted for the vehicle, but get a receipt for 1 tenth of what i paid. Happens all the time. :)
Looks like they are gonna have to hire 100,000 copyright cops now eh! They will be sneaking around listening for music coming out of a structure, big brother just gets bigger and bigger.
We already pay a hidden tax on blank cd's for the musicians, now they want more when we play the music recorded on the cd's.
You are right though, good luck on enforcing this one.
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jimsenchuk wrote: You are right though, good luck on enforcing this one.
Probably tough to enforce in small venues but they will just go after the easy targets like hotels, bars, restaurants and clubs. They all play music and can easily be asked to produce their license. Just another cost of doing business that we will all have the priviledge of paying for in increased costs so Madona and Britney can upgrade their Benz
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
If we could just tax "stupid", there would be no government deficit
If we could just tax "stupid", there would be no government deficit
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Re: Wedding music will cost you now(royalties)
jimsenchuk wrote:
There is no taxes on garage sales, flea-markets, unless you go over a certain amount a yr.
Looks like i will have to break out my old reel to reel and 8 track players now, i wonder if they will charge me royalties for playing recorded music in my own house with 25 guests on my 60th birthday?
I'd like to meet the person who actually registers with Revenue Canada that he/she makes OVER that certain amount per year on garage sale income to give them tax money....u know,..just to see what their IQ is. :dyinglaughing:
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Re: Wedding music will cost you now(royalties)
Another advantage of going to HST is that tax will no longer be payable on most used goods purchased privately. However, used vehicles, aircraft and boats purchased privately (not from an HST registrant) would still be subject to provincial sales tax, which is being increased from 7% to 12%. If an HST registrant purchases a used vehicle privately, the 12% PST paid on the transfer of the vehicle is not recoverable as an input tax credit.
Almost everything that was subject to PST when purchased new was also subject to PST when purchased used. Exceptions to this were used clothing or footwear priced at less than $100, and certain used manufactured homes. Most people were not aware that the Social Services Tax Act required them to remit the tax to the government when they bought used goods privately, or when they purchased something from an out of province seller. We would guess that most people didn't remit the PST on this type of item, and were therefore in contravention of the Social Services Tax Act.
http://www.taxtips.ca/gst/bchst.htm
Almost everything that was subject to PST when purchased new was also subject to PST when purchased used. Exceptions to this were used clothing or footwear priced at less than $100, and certain used manufactured homes. Most people were not aware that the Social Services Tax Act required them to remit the tax to the government when they bought used goods privately, or when they purchased something from an out of province seller. We would guess that most people didn't remit the PST on this type of item, and were therefore in contravention of the Social Services Tax Act.
http://www.taxtips.ca/gst/bchst.htm
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