RCMP failed to track internal misconduct for years

[Fancy]

There are threads already that have discussed this.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=29872

This is a different topic and certainly changes are being made.

[kibbs]

if 99 percent of cops actually did a good job u would not see threads like this be so popular . obviously its a lot more than 1 percent that r the problem

Threads like this are so popular because the media loves police misconduct like a monastery turned brothel.For me I feel a disconnect between the public and the police .The media has got them on the defensive .and the public is beginning to fear them rather than trust them.Policy that under punishes bad cops removes our security .If you cant trust the police who can you trust?

[Fancy]

Policy that under punishes bad cops removes our security .

Please point out this policy.

[kibbs]

Please point out this policy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/20 ... l-car.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/bri ... le4100872/

[Fancy]

A B.C. RCMP officer has been docked 10 days pay for having sex with a subordinate in a police patrol car two years ago.

The member was docked 10 days pay - what do you think should have happened?

[kibbs]

The member was docked 10 days pay - what do you think should have happened?

If i was driving a cab or any other vehicle with the name of my employer on the side and someone caught me having sex with an employee or a customer .Fired Fred Fired Don't ask for a reference Fired.Not you can keep your job but no vacation pay this year,

[Fancy]

Would that driver have a grievance process to utilize?

[Fancy]

I think you need to understand the process first of disciplinary action. You are not the only one frustrated with the system but until the government makes changes due process will still be available to police personnel.

But under the act, the RCMP isn’t the employer and federal government statutes and regulations govern the way the RCMP operates, leaving a long and cumbersome appeal process for the RCMP and those fighting to keep their jobs, Mr. Callens said.

Go after the right people for change.

[theyeti]

cops should be held to the highest standards . after all they are the ones looking down there noses at the rest of us. penalties ought to be quite severe for an officer who steps out of line in any way

[Fancy]

There is a Code of Conduct. I've already posted the link.

[kibbs]

Would that driver have a grievance process to utilize?

He could get on his knees and beg for his job back but it rarely works,if your canned for doin it in a company car what grievance can you have ,your an idiot your fired its your fault.

[Fancy]

There's the difference then so compare apples to apples. The RCMP Act allows for a grievance process.

[kibbs]

There's the difference then so compare apples to apples. The RCMP Act allows for a grievance process.

Well then that is the policy that inhibits the firing of bad officers. Don't you think that the discipline for a police officers conduct should equal that of a cabbie ? What I don't understand is why more don't resign in shame.

[Fancy]

Well then that is the policy that inhibits the firing of bad officers.

Now you are talking about firing, not "under punishing". Granted it is a long process but those changes are not going to come from the RCMP itself if Ottawa keeps vetoing it. Go after the government for change.

[kibbs]

Now you are talking about firing, not "under punishing"

Not firing for gross is conduct is under punishing ,In the public s eyes it makes the force look like it is protecting its bad officers. Diffrant rules for cops doesn't cut it.It makes the force distant from the reality of the average Canadian We don't buy the 'our job is more stressful so i get off easier' spin