Systemic issues in Ontario

[A_Britishcolumbian]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/29 ... ip-search/

i read this story and there seems to be a systemic problem here.

"There is a “decade-long history” of strip searches by Toronto Police Service officers sometimes being found unconstitutional, Judge Cole said, citing other decisions."

why are the toronto cops in such a hurry to get this child naked?
if the strip search is unconstitutional, doesn't that promote the likelihood of the child being returned to public all the quicker, enabling the potential for more abuse at the hands of the cops?
in merritt we had cops feeding their cocaine addiction by busting dealers and confiscating their stash, and now in toronto we seem to have pedophile cops grooming children to further victimize them.

[Graham Adder]

you're stretching the truth I think

[Glacier]

A_Britishcolumbian stretching the truth? Wow, what a shocker! I would never expect her to do that!

[twobits]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/29/13-year-old-boy-not-charged-for-gun-possession-because-of-improper-strip-search/

i read this story and there seems to be a systemic problem here.

"There is a “decade-long history” of strip searches by Toronto Police Service officers sometimes being found unconstitutional, Judge Cole said, citing other decisions."

why are the toronto cops in such a hurry to get this child naked?
if the strip search is unconstitutional, doesn't that promote the likelihood of the child being returned to public all the quicker, enabling the potential for more abuse at the hands of the cops?
in merritt we had cops feeding their cocaine addiction by busting dealers and confiscating their stash, and now in toronto we seem to have pedophile cops grooming children to further victimize them.

If you can read that into the news story I am more concerned about you than those cops.

[Ken7]

The title of this post is totally misleading.....

I'd like to know what the term "pedifile" means to the poster. By reading the search of the boy, it has been done that way for years. Would it be necessary on this case... I'd question that a proper pat search was in order.

[underscore]

I'm a tad more concerned about the kid walking around with a bleeping gun than whatever crap the OP is trying to twist from this.

[A_Britishcolumbian]

i believe this story gives credence to the idea that there are major systemic issues with the toronto police.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/05/co ... picks=true

TORONTO - A "thorough" investigation that didn't involve police interviewing the last guy Laura Babcock was talking to on her cellphone before she went missing?

Really?

This is what Det. Mike Carbone of Toronto Homicide was trying to sell to the media and public Tuesday?

"The investigation was thorough and employed all of the traditional methods used in any missing persons case," he said.

But he also told reporters that Dellen Millard, the last person who called her on her cell, was not interviewed.

Is that traditional?

[A_Britishcolumbian]

i am seeing an interesting pattern here, it would seem toronto cops like getting kids naked and 'searching' them, without regard for the 'constitution' or the judiciary, then they pick and choose who they investigate, murders not being the highest priority. once you have been locked up the correctional officers enjoy themselves at your expense and detriment.

"Punching, slapping, kicking, stomping on someone who is under control, under restraints, is inexcusable and morally repugnant," Marin said.

"Regardless of why they are incarcerated, inmates are human beings and they deserve respect, dignity and humane treatment."

Marin's 135-page report is the product of thousands of complaints a year that were paralyzing his office.
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... .htm#93422

the "system" in ontario is rotten.

[oneh2obabe]

Why are you so worried about the "system" in Ontario when you live in BC? Can't find any statistics for BC or you'd rather not sully your playing grounds?

Oh wait, you can't

i cannot speak directly about links within british columbia suffice to say they exist.

Ever been to Toronto? Ever seen what the police do day in and out? Ever sat in court and watched the proceedings? Ever talk to the guards at any of the detention centres or superjails?

[A_Britishcolumbian]

while i am somewhat familiar with and to ottawa and other parts of ontario, i have specifically avoided toronto. a jet i was on fueled up at the toronto airport once.
so no, i am unfamiliar with toronto with exception to media sources and some family and friends that have told me ... things.

what i do know from my connections and experiences in ottawa, ontario as a community sees themselves as 'canada' and the rest us us to be outside of that, eg. british columbia is a province of/beneath ontario.

[A_Britishcolumbian]

so the judges tell the cops to straighten up, the judges are ignored, the people tell the cops to straighten up, and they are ignored as well. first the cops kill the 18 year old, then at least one tampers with evidence at the crimes scene. there are systemic problems in ontario and the rcmp.

Ontario’s ombudsman says that with police co-operation being “the exception, not the norm,” the provincial government should consider implementing rarely-used powers to “direct police on how to do their job” in the aftermath of last weekend’s shooting death of teenager Sammy Yatim.

“What we saw on the [streetcar] is not something that is completely unfamiliar with the Toronto Police Service. There have been literally dozens of inquests that have recommended measures to de-escalate this kind of conflict,” Andre Marin said in a blunt interview with the CBC’s Metro Morning Wednesday.

He suggested if police can’t or won’t implement better training protocol, it might be time for the province as “Bigger Brother to take charge and direct police on how to do their job.”

“We are talking about life and death here. We are talking an 18-year-old on a [streetcar] by himself. Nine bullets and according to reports, Tasered following that.”

Marin said he was “shocked” by the incident and is closely watching the Special Investigation Unit’s probe into the death of Yatim, who was shot multiple times on an empty streetcar by Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo last Saturday morning.

While some officers tiptoe around the casings, the person taking the video notices at least one casing being kicked by an officer.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/07/31 ... -shooting/

[A_Britishcolumbian]

i believe there is a commandment about respecting one's elders, it would seem these ontario cops are not obsercers of that same commandment.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2568010322001

[oneh2obabe]

i believe there is a commandment about respecting one's elders, it would seem these ontario cops are not obsercers of that same commandment.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2568010322001

Being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=27&t=52012

[underscore]

i believe there is a commandment about respecting one's elders, it would seem these ontario cops are not obsercers of that same commandment.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2568010322001

"respect ones elders" is such an outdated concept. Age alone should not be a determining factor in respect.

[A_Britishcolumbian]

how about 'respect those that have gone before you', more likable? :)

if that thinking is outdated, to you, and to too many, there is a specific cliche 'proverb' that deals with that and you are sure to be familiar with, 'those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it'.

would you say that is outdated as well? :)