Is it time to take guns away from the police?

[Trigger69]

What happened to good old fashioned policework... using smarts size and a baton to solve problems rather than guns. Now pretty much any loser is allowed to join the force.

And any loser is allowed to suggest that they are...
We had a shoot out on the west side where the suspects shot at the police unprovoked. So tell me what would you do as a cop using your "smarts, size and a baton" when this was to happen, keeping public, personal safety in mind? Remember when answering, these jerk offs also car jacked a number people in the commission of this crime....putting multiple persons at risk.

[baconbits]

We had a shoot out on the west side where the suspects shot at the police unprovoked. So tell me what would you do as a cop using your "smarts, size and a baton" when this was to happen, keeping public, personal safety in mind? Remember when answering, these jerk offs also car jacked a number people in the commission of this crime....putting multiple persons at risk.

C'mon! I'm willing to bet that he's not refering to circumastances like that lol. How often do those types of incidents happen, compared to a simple take down? I'm no statistician but I would get it's probably somewhere around 90% to 10%

[underscore]

So what do you expect to happen the 10% of the time?

[baconbits]

high velocilty police chases with mulitple assailants shooting at them and car-jackings along the way

[Trigger69]

C'mon! I'm willing to bet that he's not refering to circumastances like that lol. How often do those types of incidents happen, compared to a simple take down? I'm no statistician but I would get it's probably somewhere around 90% to 10%

The fact that it happens is enough for me. If you feel cops should not carry guns then as it has already been suggested, I would be all for this if the bad guys out there didn't carry knives, bats, guns, 2x4's etc. I will agree when someone carries and uses a firearm each and everyday (such as cops do) the likelihood of a mistake happening goes up. That said, mistakes being what they are I can honestly say that the "mistakes" that happen if cops DIDNT carry guns would be far greater IMO. Criminals et all would have a field day with this...

[Ken7]

Ok. So long as you take guns, knives, baseball bats, 2x4s, screw drivers, hammers and crowbars away from the bad guys.

You also forget, no more wood piles too.

[Donald G]

Police without guns means that criminals with guns control our society. The whole thread is based on the ridiculous idea that there are civilized countries in the world where the police do not have ready access to guns. That is simply not true.

British Bobbies who are not armed DO NOT attend violent complaints. British Bobbies who ARE armed, most of whom are not in uniform or are wearing EART or SWAT type equipment DO attend violent complaints.

It would be preposterous in Canada ... to the point of being criminally negligent.

[Ken7]

Police without guns means that criminals with guns control our society. The whole thread is based on the ridiculous idea that there are civilized countries in the world where the police do not have ready access to guns. That is simply not true.

British Bobbies who are not armed DO NOT attend violent complaints. British Bobbies who ARE armed, most of whom are not in uniform or are wearing EART or SWAT type equipment DO attend violent complaints.

It would be preposterous in Canada ... to the point of being criminally negligent.

10/10

You have to consider the source.

If you've never been there....

There are times where deadly force is necessary and without having all the facts of an incident people only assume what should have been done. It is also difficult for those who have no understanding of police training to pass judgement.

I do however feel the level of training is not the same and needs to be bumped up. Not enough time with a well-trained Training Officer can lead to problematic street cops who over react and make poor decisions.

[mexi cali]

And any loser is allowed to suggest that they are...
We had a shoot out on the west side where the suspects shot at the police unprovoked. So tell me what would you do as a cop using your "smarts, size and a baton" when this was to happen, keeping public, personal safety in mind? Remember when answering, these jerk offs also car jacked a number people in the commission of this crime....putting multiple persons at risk.

This is hardly a great example of when to show restraint. In this instance, hells yeh! The police should have mowed em down where they stood.

I don't think anyone is saying that there is never a case where firing a weapon is necessary. It is very necessary in many cases.

[Bsuds]

I don't think anyone is saying that there is never a case where firing a weapon is necessary. It is very necessary in many cases.

Then why the suggestion that the police not carry weapons?

[mexi cali]

I didn't suggest it. I think that the notion is ludicrous.

[Bsuds]

I didn't suggest it. I think that the notion is ludicrous.

Didn't mean you, but that is what this thread is about.

[Captain Awesome]

Sometimes, when I stand in line behind a police officer, I wonder what would happen if I reached out and took the officer's gun out of his holster.

[mexi cali]

Try it. I double dog dare ya!

[KL3-Something]

Sometimes, when I stand in line behind a police officer, I wonder what would happen if I reached out and took the officer's gun out of his holster.

It harder than you think.

Last guy who tried it with me ended up needing to go to the hospital. And, no, he didn't get it out of the holster. But he is unlikely to try it again.