Doublespeak alive and well

[NAB]

While I agree with what you say about CBC (and their idea of "reporting" is often classical doublespeak in itself), we cannot blame "leftists" or a leftist Government for creating and mishandling the issue in the first place. The Minister handed them an opportunity on a silver platter.

Now I hear Rob Ford has ambitions to become Prime Minister LOL. When it comes to doublespeak even getting to that level would be a major improvement for him ; -)

Nab

[Ranger66]

“That idiotic taxpayer-funded leftist network is so obsessed with its anti-Harper agenda that they are basically creating the news now,”

As long as the Harper government keeps handing them the opportunities they will be able to keep their agenda going. I watch at least 3 different news programs every day, one being CBC, balance makes you better equipped.

[Atomoa]

The only media that is "for the government/on their side" are found in dictatorships.

The media's purpose is to question the government and hold them account - not be their PR department.

[Atomoa]

I agree with the last few posters, it does not make sense to keep a physical office open that is so specialized it is rarely used.

Define rarely used.

Another poster said "only 1% of Vet's use the offices" but not verified at all.

Interesting that large groups of Vets and Vets groups are upset and outraged but actually don't use the offices (so we are told by CPC defenders) Like here in Kelowna, it's not that bad for a 80 year old Vet to have drive to Penticton in the winter time, to get the services he is owed. Money is better spent on radio ad's for the Enbridge pipeline than taking care of people who went to war for Canada.

Hypocritical WWII/Afghanistan/Kosovo vets - always looking for something to whine and bellyache over ;)

[twobits]

Like here in Kelowna, it's not that bad for a 80 year old Vet to have drive to Penticton in the winter time, to get the services he is owed.

Can you explain why he has to drive to Penticton? Why would he not just go to the Service Canada office in Kelowna?

[logicalview]

Can you explain why he has to drive to Penticton? Why would he not just go to the Service Canada office in Kelowna?

But...but....but....you are going against the created problem here....we're all supposed to be angry at the closing of the offices...you aren't supposed to be pointing out that the new system is better - you'd never get a job at the CBC doing that!

[logicalview]

The only media that is "for the government/on their side" are found in dictatorships.

The media's purpose is to question the government and hold them account - not be their PR department.

That's total poppy-cock. The CBC is government-funded, and hates any government that doesn't fall for the BS that they should not be held accountable for their spending. The CBC brass hates that the Conservatives hold them to account, and their agenda to bring down the Harper government is blatant, and obvious to even leftist idiots, or most of them anyway.

[Atomoa]

Why would he not just go to the Service Canada office in Kelowna?

Service Canada is already overburdened. The Kelowna office serviced 2,225 veterans. How many new people were hired on at Service Canada in Kelowna to deal with 2,225 new clients, and what was their "Veteran/Military training" background?

They are not trained nor familiar with how to address and deal with Veteran issues. The can give a Vet a phone number to call, or help them apply for a passport.

These are people who fought wars on our behalf - why not just set up a self-service kiosk in the mall with a computer terminal?

If your suffering from PTSD - walk down to Service Canada, stand in line, and watch a clueless employee who doesn't know a thing about military service Google search for "Canada veteran PTSD help"?

How does one get a "caseworker" at a Service Canada office? Veteran Affiars offices and their workers were entrenched in the programs, benefits and services available for Vet's and knew the system inside and out. Little known programs or "tricks within the system" to get Vet's the help they need. How will that be available at a Service Canada office?

...not to mention...this is from a government that "supports vets".

8 suicides in 2 months. Lets close some offices.

[logicalview]

I was curious as to why the leftist nuts at the CBC as well as leftist nuts everywhere, including this forum, are so vested in this issue, given they really couldn't care less about veterans, and their concern for them has really come off as mostly disingenuous, which is saying something for people who basically lie all day for a living. At first I thought that this was just about another reason to bash Harper to further the NDP and Green party boneheads, but it appears to be much more then that.

When I researched why these cuts were made to these offices, it was part of a bigger initiative to cut public service worker jobs. THAT's why all of these unions and leftist loony-tunes are crapping their drawers about this. The veterans are just being used as political footballs by these losers. The bigger picture here is that unionized staff are losing their jobs. The lunatics can cry about the closures but they don't care one bit about these veterans, it's all about where their bread is buttered. What a surprise.

Even the hard-core commies have got into the act:
http://www.cpcml.ca/Tmld2014/D44008.htm

[Phoenix2014]

Please do not presume to think you have the foggiest notion about what motivates people. It seems as though, from reading these forums, that anyone who criticises what the Harper government is doing, is instantly labelled a lefty nut job, which is of course beyond silly.

It is also beyond pathetic if a poster can't comprehend or imagine that anyone could actually care about the veterans and not have some secret agenda..perhaps paranoid would be a better description of the idea that everything has to be rooted in some sort of anti harper conspiracy. It's as though Harper is God and must not be questioned or held to account?

So easy to see everything in black and white, It makes life so much simpler. It's even easier when you can line up behind a personality who has strong opinions so it isn't necessary to think at all, you can simply parrot the party line, and throw hate at anyone who questions or disagrees.

However, growing up usually involves some understanding that the world is not simple and divided into two. It can be quite exciting and interesting if you aren't afraid of complexity. If on the other hand, a person can't handle uncertainty and retreats into an " us vs them" view of the world, it's like choosing to live only on macaroni and hot dogs for a lifetime, pretty limited and gets boring pretty quickly.

The scary part is that it leads to the destruction of a free and democratic society, because such a society deliberately makes room for discussion and dissent and diversity of opinion with mutual respect. I rarely read these forums as there's very little of that here. It's sad; people in Canada have been so lucky, by and large, and we are in the process of throwing it all away.

[bob vernon]

Look, we have to get the wages and benefits in this country down to the level of China and India or we won't be able to compete with them for jobs. The whining left-wing entitled greedy government workers are going to have to quit sniveling and deal with it. The gravy train is ending. Gold plated gummment pensions are going to be a thing of the past. And so are cushy do-nothing jobs. If snivel servants think it's getting tough, just wait until Harper gets another majority and then he's really going to disassemble your world.