Man who beheaded Greyhound passenger granted unescorted trip

[rvrepairnut]

It is my personal opinion that any Doctor with any intelligence at all would never let this guy out of a detention center this soon after the most terrible deed he has done NEVER!!!!!

[Jo]

He's only allowed out for day visits, right? So the institute will be making sure he has taken his medication before going out. Ergo, no danger. I don't support it, mind you, but it seems to me there's no danger if these are just day jaunts.

[Beerhunter341]

He's only allowed out for day visits, right? So the institute will be making sure he has taken his medication before going out. Ergo, no danger. I don't support it, mind you, but it seems to me there's no danger if these are just day jaunts.

Somehow I'm not confident that the meds prescribed will keep him from doing this again. Would you want to hang out with him on said day trip? Are you will to put your life on the line that the docs got it right?

[Jo]

I think that as long as the trips are just day trips, sure, I wouldn't worry. Those drugs are pretty much bullet-proof, as long as they are, in fact, taken. If he were living on his own I'd worry, but in a controlled situation like this, no.

I still don't think it is the right thing, though. Just saying I don't think it would be dangerous as long as he is on those drugs before leaving the building.

[Atomoa]

That's pretty much it. It takes weeks/months being off the drugs to cause any problems.

I don't understand why people who :

1. Understand that Vince Li is not a murderer and poses no danger to the public as long as he is medicated
2. Understand that Vince Li deserves to punishment, ill treatment, even a frown from any of us (because he did no wrong)

...would still want him to spend his life in a cage. I mean the initial reaction is there...but power of reasoning should overcome the emotional knee jerk reaction to do this man harm.

Head's up. Vince Li (if you read interviews with him) is full of regret, remorse and disgust. He never wants to get off the drugs. The doctors say he is a model patient and the eventual goal will be the re-integration of Vince Li into society.

That being said - how did this man fall through the cracks? Ride a city bus and you can see plenty of people who "hear voices" - shall we wait until another beheading to start talking about spending money on prison time or do we want to use that money instead to try and prevent it from happening in the first place?

[rvrepairnut]

That's pretty much it. It takes weeks/months being off the drugs to cause any problems.

I don't understand why people who :

1. Understand that Vince Li is not a murderer and poses no danger to the public as long as he is medicated
2. Understand that Vince Li deserves to punishment, ill treatment, even a frown from any of us (because he did no wrong)

...would still want him to spend his life in a cage. I mean the initial reaction is there...but power of reasoning should overcome the emotional knee jerk reaction to do this man harm.

Head's up. Vince Li (if you read interviews with him) is full of regret, remorse and disgust. He never wants to get off the drugs. The doctors say he is a model patient and the eventual goal will be the re-integration of Vince Li into society.

That being said - how did this man fall through the cracks? Ride a city bus and yo ucan see plenty of people who "hear voices" - shall we wait until other beheading to start talking about spending money on prison time or so we want to use that money instead to try and prevent it from happeneing

your rhetoric post in my humble opinion makes no sense at all.This nut case should be in a prison hospital for life end of story

[Jx3]

This nut case should be in a prison hospital for life end of story

This "nut case" should not have made it off that bus alive.

[rvrepairnut]

This "nut case" should not have made it off that bus alive.

that's a true story

[logicalview]

'The left" has nothing to do with this. The police cannot shoot someone because they commuted a crime, they can only shoot to protect themselves or others in the immediate sense of a situation.

There was noone left on the bus for Vince Li to kill. The police are not executioners and there is no death penalty in Canada.

They didn't have to shoot him, but they could have stormed the bus and at least put him down on the ground, rather than just watching him chew on the victim's entrails for five hours.

[maryjane48]

This "nut case" should not have made it off that bus alive.

that would be murder

[normaM]

^^ not f the voices said to shoot him^^
This, cases like this is why there is stigma re mental Health
Sure he'll stay on meds, I hope they are injections and not here swallow the pill
He doesn't need to be punished further.. he doesn't need to have day passes either.

[logicalview]

2. Understand that Vince Li deserves to punishment, ill treatment, even a frown from any of us (because he did no wrong)

I can't imagine the depths of ignorance about human emotions and the human psyche it must take to state that people can't even frown at Li for what he did, but I have to wonder if even you, Mr. "Have you hugged a cannibal today" would feel this forgiving and sanctimonious about Vincent Li if it was your brother, dad or son who was beheaded, butchered and eaten. That would be interesting indeed.

[logicalview]

^^ not f the voices said to shoot him^^
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LOL

10/10

I think you just invented a defence that is iron clad - "the Cannibal defence" - if you shoot someone, you can get away with it as long as you chop them up and eat them afterwards, and say the voices told you to do it. People wouldn't even be allowed to frown at you after that.

[the truth]

if it was some of you peoples kid who's head he chopped off and ate some body parts i am sure some of you would feel differernt about letting this nut bar out.the guy chopped someones head off and ate some body parts ,what more do you people need to see to lock this guy up for life.jail no mental health facility yes

[Jo]

This will not turn into another NDP vs Conservatives thread. Full stop.