Ron Cannan restrained in Parliament

[A_Britishcolumbian]

funny no one is mentioning cannan's history of lying and thuggery.

recall he lied about a meeting on the westside back in 2007 where he and his goons got physical with an attendee of the "open house" http://thescottross.blogspot.ca/2008/09 ... hould.html

as for ed fast. why did he introduce a bill to open "free trade" with honduras recently, bill c-20? honduras, in case you did not know is the most murderous country in the world, and is well known as a centre/hub for human trafficking, and of course 'canada' has chosen to ignore such 'crimes' and currently has no 'law' to curtail such activities. ed fast of abbottsford is as shady as they get, and if he were to mock 'shoot' at someone i would suggest they take it seriously. http://openparliament.ca/politicians/ed-fast/

no need to bring up cannan and fast's ties to the hells angels (used without expressed permission) at this time.

[grammafreddy]

Lordy, everyone is posting like they didn't watch the CBC video of Fast's "gun movement". This whole thing is trivial.

Edited to add ... cripes - Castanet has changed the video originally with this story. What's there now is entirely different than what was there earlier. Sorry, folks. I am the wrong one.

[flamingfingers]

Read the thread GF - Cannan got out of control and was a threatening presence where he had no business to be - whether or not he had to be 'restrained' from a physical altercation was obviated by a couple of NDP MPs who got him back to where he should be. Still a pathetic example for him as an 'honorable parliamentarian'.

[Gone_Fishin]

When something is reported by a credible source such as cbcnews, reporting on what witnesses observed, I don't think it is one person's 'warped opinion'.

There's your first mistake.
*removed* are so skeered of their own shadows that now they take a pointing finger to be a gun. There has been a massive devolution from common sense among these leftist *removed*

[Merry]

I watched the video on the news and it sure looked like a "gun" gesture to me. I wouldn't make as much of it as some have on this forum, but I do think it was an inappropriate gesture for an MP to make in the House of Commons.

[Atomoa]

The gun gesture was just bad taste - telling - but bad taste and not behavior for the HoC. Appologize and be done with it.

The denials, Ed Fast's "crossing of the floor and wagging fingers and yelling in peoples faces" and Ron Cannan's little tantrum are what is really at issue here IMO.

It seems to me the CPC are the ones making a big deal out of something that could be easily forgiven if actually acknowledged and dealt with.

The HoC is not a "gotcha" schoolyard setting, to say the least. If we as Canadians don't want our MP's screaming, yelling, crossing the floor and making gun gestures (however non threatening you perceive them to be) - then say so and vote.

Ron Cannan 2015. He'll "escort" the Okanagan to prosperity or He's calling out high taxes and challenging them to step outside!

[Ken7]

I still have that picture somewhere. Should have sued the City for millions.

What would your claim be, failing to pose or smile?

[Ken7]

I saw the "gun gesture" on TV and have to agree that it was inappropriate behaviour from an MP. But crossing the floor and asking a member of the opposition to "step outside" is even more inappropriate. What is wrong with these people?

If in fact this occurred, he should be sent home and banned from ever attending again. This is totally not acceptable by anyone in that position.

[Atomoa]

I was once taking pictures of Christmas parade in Vancouver. One of the floats carried Larry Campbell, then mayor of Vancouver. When I approached the float to take a picture of him (I must have been 5-10 feet away), he looked straight at me and did a throat cutting gesture looking straight at the camera.

...better be careful. You are outside of political privilege.

According to Ron Cannan you are ripe to be sued by Larry Campbell for suggesting that he made a throat cutting gesture.

He might just storm over to your house and offer more legal advise.

[LANDM]

Asking him to repeat the comment outside is a very definite request in parliament and has nothing to do with the notion of "asking him to step outside" to fight.
Repeating it outside will open the person to legal repercussions that would not be present by saying it in chamber.

That's CPC Kool Aid. Harris didn't say anything inside the House that was libelous and he did repeat the allegation outside the House in the media scrum.

So not only is Mr. Ron a bully, he's also a coward and a liar.

Disgusting. This guy is the best we can do?

#NotARealMan

What's the koolaid? I merely stated that he was not asking someone to step outside to fight but, rather, to repeat outside of parliamentary privilege.
If he repeated it outside, then the speaker of the potentially libellous or slanderous statement obviously feels comfortable that it is not. As for whether it is or not, that would be for a resulting court action to decide, not you. You state it as an absolute where clearly, it now takes the offended party to take action. That is not necessarily an instantaneous thing. It's not like a Monty Python skit where the guy steps outside, repeats his offending statement, and a 16 ton weight instantly drops on him if he was wrong. Parliament only seems like a Monty Python skit. You may have been confused.

Where is the bully, coward, and liar part for Cannan? Other than your names being a result of political opposition to him, I don't really see where that comes in.
As for whether he is the best we can do, all good people do not become candidates.....therefore he is only the best we can do out of the people that ran. The beauty of our system is that almost anyone can become a candidate. Therefore, if you feel you are better, you are always strongly encouraged to throw your hat in the ring in the next election.

[c2c]

This extract from Cannan’s letter to Logitack is priceless:
“In my view, to falsely accuse a member in such a way is un-parliamentary and inexcusable. It not only damages reputations, it damages the integrity of Parliament and Canadians’ view of their elected representatives.”

If Cannan is really concerned about “the integrity of Parliament and Canadians’ view of their elected representatives” he might want to apologize.

He might also want to reflect on the Harper Government’s history of contempt of parliamentary process.

[Jo]

Ack, yesterday I derailed this very good thread by going after a member in the thread itself (something we try not to do), and was too cranky to remove the posts. Sorry for the earlier derailment, people, and for this one, come to think of it!

It goes without saying, don't respond to this in the thread, as it will just derail the thread again.

[Rwede]

The best part is, Ron Cannan will be elected in a landslide victory, again, to join the majority CPC government in 2015.

All that despite the whimpering on this thread over nothing. Life is good!

[Partmanpartfish]

What's the koolaid? I merely stated that he was not asking someone to step outside to fight but, rather, to repeat outside of parliamentary privilege.
If he repeated it outside, then the speaker of the potentially libellous or slanderous statement obviously feels comfortable that it is not. As for whether it is or not, that would be for a resulting court action to decide, not you. You state it as an absolute where clearly, it now takes the offended party to take action. That is not necessarily an instantaneous thing. It's not like a Monty Python skit where the guy steps outside, repeats his offending statement, and a 16 ton weight instantly drops on him if he was wrong. Parliament only seems like a Monty Python skit. You may have been confused.

Where is the bully, coward, and liar part for Cannan? Other than your names being a result of political opposition to him, I don't really see where that comes in.
As for whether he is the best we can do, all good people do not become candidates.....therefore he is only the best we can do out of the people that ran. The beauty of our system is that almost anyone can become a candidate. Therefore, if you feel you are better, you are always strongly encouraged to throw your hat in the ring in the next election.

For some of us, Mr. Cannan's story that he snuck around to the other side of the House and through the curtains on the opposition side in order to calmly inform the honourable members that statements made outside the protection of the House may result in legal action . . . simply doesn't pass the smell test. Call us crazy.

I certainly wish one of Mr. Cannan's backers could explain to us crazy folk just exactly what is actionable about stating that a person made a hand gesture. That's ridiculous. Not even Judge Judy would touch that one.

My opposition to Mr. Cannan in this thread is not political, it is because I feel he is not being honest with us.

[Partmanpartfish]

The best part is, Ron Cannan will be elected in a landslide victory, again, to join the majority CPC government in 2015.

All that despite the whimpering on this thread over nothing. Life is good!

Nobody has ever accused local voters of being smart.

My guess is Mr. Trudeau will become Prime Minister in 2015, and Mr. Harper and his gang will be sent back to the hills.