Jim Flaherty has died.

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wanderingman wrote:quit funny and no iam as far from left as one can get. I don't believe in entitlements,native rights, open immigration
and certainly not the out of control foreign aid we spend.I never agreed with Flaherty as(my opinion) he was a Brian Mulroney clone'.When He caused the unit trust industry to go into a tail spin, I lost what little respect I may have had for him
he caused(directly) Millions upon millions of $$ loses for investors.He was not as great as some allude to not even close

What people fail to realize is that because of his efforts, our country fared better than almost every other country on the planet when the economic downturn happened. The losses would have been much more severe if not for him and the efforts of our government.
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What people fail to realize is that because of his efforts, our country fared better than almost every other country on the planet when the economic downturn happened. The losses would have been much more severe if not for him and the efforts of our government.[quote][/quote]

that's a total crock. The way our Banks and mortage companys work etc are the reason we faired better than the USA.NOTHING to do with Flaherty. NOTHING
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gman313 wrote:Looks like Jim will be getting a state funeral. Glad to hear he deserves it!

Hopefully that will upset a few of you inhumane types who actually thing it is good when a human passes.


really? so U don't think when a Inhuman being like Olson passes its not a day of celebration then either?
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Jonrox wrote:What people fail to realize is that because of his efforts, our country fared better than almost every other country on the planet when the economic downturn happened. The losses would have been much more severe if not for him and the efforts of our government.


I think the main reason Canada fared better was previous (mostly) liberal governments refused to let our banks become undercapitalized casinos like the American banks . . . which were pushing out mortgages to people who couldn't afford them and using default swaps to bet against them.

Flaherty helped because he wasn't crazy like most on the uber-right, but most of the credit goes to previous governments and the solid foundation they built.
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Comparing Olson to Flaherty is a crock and shameful.

It doesn't matter if you disagreed with every single move he made, you can still show some respect for a guy that was well respected on all sides of the House for his dedication to doing what he considered to be right. Or at the very least show some respect for the family.
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Glacier wrote:Comparing Olson to Flaherty is a crock and shameful.

It doesn't matter if you disagreed with every single move he made, you can still show some respect for a guy that was well respected on all sides of the House for his dedication to doing what he considered right.


READ and UNDESTAND Context before beeking off.There was no intent to connect the two. The guy or person said all humans I disagreed and use olson as an example. geez give it a rest
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wanderingman wrote:


There you go ! Trying to force your own opinion on someone whom has a different opinion.The guy absolutely cost me well over 250K in the Unit trust scandle that he absolutely screwed up and lied over(Harper was as bad or worse)
I absolutely DETESTED this Man.Iam glad he died .that's MY OPINION .


In civilized society we appreciate the right to have and express an opinion. We refer to it generally as freedom of expression. Civilized society however also advanced to the point that we recognize in some instances, that right to freedom of expression is crossing the moral boundaries of society in general. Your statements sir are repugnant, show a complete lack of any class whatsoever and are no better than the simplest definition of hate crimes. To rejoice over a man's death is a sad statement of your moral character, or more accurately, the lack thereof. And that sir is my opinion of you.
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here,s my take on it, the guy dies end of story and I could really care less as I never cared for the man
Is that good nuff all u bleeding heart liberals
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Well, now we at least see clearly the dollar value someone places on humanity and basic decency. What's next, the soul? Price?

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wanderingman:

1: Please LEARN how to use the quote button appropriately. There is help available.
2: You have spewed out your vicious anger on only one man you consider to be the cause of your financial loss, without considering the many other contributing factors.

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flamingfingers wrote:wanderingman:

1: Please LEARN how to use the quote button appropriately. There is help available.
2: You have spewed out your vicious anger on only one man you consider to be the cause of your financial loss, without considering the many other contributing factors.

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Cut it out you two. Let's get back on topic.
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Jonrox wrote:
What people fail to realize is that because of his efforts, our country fared better than almost every other country on the planet when the economic downturn happened. The losses would have been much more severe if not for him and the efforts of our government.


Flaherty talked a lot about Canada's economic recovery as a success story, topping all G7 countries.

In actual fact, Canada's real GDP per capita growth puts us in the middle of the pack, behind Germany, Japan and the United States. And among 34 OECD countries, Canada stands at 16th spot when population growth and purchasing power are taken into account.

Flaherty ruled out a modest expansion of the Canada Pension Plan, even though pension experts consider it a no-brainer, and followed a decision to raise the retirement age from 65 to 67;
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NAB wrote:Well, now we at least see clearly the dollar value someone places on humanity and basic decency. What's next, the soul? Price?

Nab


No worries there, as he doesn't have one.
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I think many of us have only rarely experienced a moment such as yesterday, when all partisanship faded away and we absorbed the shocking news of the death of someone we knew and loved. It was so unexpected, and I know the word has been used recently, unfair. We all know that we are all mortal, and we cannot really judge the fairness of a moment. We just know that all of us felt in our hearts that Jim Flaherty deserved his retirement and deserved the rest he so richly deserved.

As my colleague from Kings—Hants mentioned, only recently have we been sharing stories of how much he was suffering and how he persevered. What an extraordinary work ethic, to refuse to take time for his own rest when he was dealing with a condition that was painful, difficult, and exhausting for him. However, he did not put himself first; he put his country first.

One the moments I did not know about, and it was one of the sides of his personality, so it does not surprise me at all, I heard yesterday from the Green Party candidate for Whitby—Oshawa, Rebecca Harrison, who was completely broken up. She had shared with him, she said, the laughs after all-candidates meetings that he would stay and share. He would ask her out for a beer. Such kindness, such humanity. He was ultimately someone who loved other people so much that he put partisanship aside so that we could know what it was like to enjoy a joke with Jim, and he did enjoy his jokes.
Yesterday, when I went across the aisle to console the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, she said, “I was just going to send him this joke I found online. I thought he'd love it”. His sense of humour is what will stay with me, as will his compassion and his public service.

I will not trespass any longer on all of our shared grief. I want to extend my condolences to Christine, to his sons, John, Galen, and Quinn, to all of our colleagues in this place who worked with him in the Conservative Party, the Prime Minister, and everyone who is, at this moment, shattered, broken up, and understanding that we will not see Jim Flaherty again on this mortal plane.

Forgive me if I recognize that Jim Flaherty was a man of faith. For those who are of no faith, please forgive me if I reflect that we part company now and enter into the break to observe the most sacred portion of the Christian calendar, when we go through Palm Sunday, Holy Week, and Good Friday and ultimately recognize that Jesus Christ broke the bonds of death and we celebrate resurrection. I hope that those moments will give some comfort to Jim and his family, because Jim Flaherty was a man of deep faith, and those of us of faith know that he is in, as they say, a better place, the best place.

Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. Amen

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