The truth about missing aboriginal woman.

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mexicalidreamer wrote:The little table above showed me that approximately the same number of non-aboriginal women (93%) are victimized by someone they knew and 90% of aboriginal women are victimized by someone the knew.

There is no discernible discrimination there.

It is a womens issue.


Percentages do not show quantity. I would expect the question is not who is doing the victimizing but rather why are there so many aboriginal victims. It's not rocket science, poverty and alchoholism are all excellent triggers for domestic violence which is probably why an inquiry is unneeded but that doesn't mean a solution isn't required.
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Bingo.
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Public inquiries have played a prominent role throughout Canadian history. Commissions of inquiry have contributed to the development of diverse public policies such as public broadcasting, universal health care, bilingualism and multi-culturalism, free trade, and employment equity. But it is in extraordinary circumstances that their unique investigative features are required: the conviction and imprisonment of innocent people; mining disasters; the murder of hundreds of Canadians through the bombing of an international flight; corruption on the part of government officials; or impropriety on the part of a former prime minister. where is your outrage at these ones?
http://www.irwinlaw.com/titles/conduct-public-inquiries



Subjects of a Public Inquiry
Public inquiries can be created to review any important event or issue in Canadian society. Common public inquiry topics include:
heres a whole slew of them a to z


http://www.pco-bcp.gc.ca/index.asp?lang ... ex-eng.htm



lets hear your protest of how it is all a waste of money . but really the al bundy answer is a inquiry can compel government and police to approach things in a different way , can compel bands to put more towards social and education issues , can and will bring communities together , can heal past wounds so it does not have to be a issue anymore , there is nothing negative to come out of these studies, it is all positive for everyone, learning is a good thing. any time there has been a inquiry involving people other than first nations, they do not get on a soapbox and beak off about how it should not be taken up , not once ever .
i find it amusing when some people say everyone should just be the same , then drive wedges in between the attempted joinings
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so how many trillions more ,do we keep on ps....g out the window. every country on this planet can come up with there own local stats , on how there local poor are hard done by, ins not a Canadian native issue only
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lets hear your protest of how it is all a waste of money . It's a waste when you already know what the problem is. Do you need an inquiry to tell you that people who live in sub standard conditions are prone to violence? I hope not. The people who this affects need to be able to look to their leaders for help. That's how it is supposed to work. but really the al bundy answer is a inquiry can compel government and police to approach things in a different way , can compel bands to put more towards social and education issues ,This I agree with whole heartedly but you don't need a friggin inquiry to get there. can and will bring communities together , can heal past wounds so it does not have to be a issue anymore , there is nothing negative to come out of these studies, it is all positive for everyone, learning is a good thing. any time there has been a inquiry involving people other than first nations, they do not get on a soapbox and beak off about how it should not be taken up , not once ever . Arguable I'll bet but whatever, if they choose to beak off they are certainly welcome to voice their opinions.
i find it amusing when some people say everyone should just be the same , then drive wedges in between the attempted joinings
I drive no wedges and I have no axe to grind with aboriginals. Mt responses would be the same if the plea for an inquiry was to see why white women are victimized as often as they are. We all know why.
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Mt responses would be the same if the plea for an inquiry was to see why white women are victimized as often as they are. We all know why.
well im not sure why we have police when you seem to be sherlock holmes , but really just because a inquiry means nothing to you and would mean so much to the people affected i really hope jt wins next election and finally gets this done so people can move on . what you think it is going to cost to have 4 f18 in iraq? we know they really wont contribute much or accomplish much from the air ,its money that could be used for this instead which will have real results
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To your points;

You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes. You just need to be willing to follow the evidence. The evidence never lies.

It would mean so much to waste millions of dollars trying to understand why the sky is blue when all we need do is look at an encyclopaedia. The answers are there.

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Poverty, poor housing, poor healthcare, the absence of employment opportunities... the disadvantages go on and on. Huge amounts of money have been dumped into some of these aboriginal communities - to the extent that it is almost unbelievable - yet in some cases, nothing changes, so these aboriginal women continue to live in terrible circumstances, with little or no hope of improvement. If the media reports are at all accurate, a case in point would seem to be Athawapiskat Reserve in Ontario where the Chief [Teresa Spence] continues to reign with her husband, who is reportedly also on the band's payroll. Few seem willing to comment upon or to publicly condemn the financial management of communities like this. Are these situations not contributing to the hardship being endured by aboriginal women? I don't make these comments to be inflammatory, rather it seems obvious that simply pouring more money into these communities has not helped. In those locales where aboriginal leadership has been strong, with the interest of the people being first and foremost, circumstances are demonstratively better. There would seem to me to be lots of room for providing training to develop responsible and effective aboriginal leaders as well as [on the job mentoring] for aboriginal leaders where necessary. Would that not be an approach that could [potentially] improve the current situation? Perhaps then we would see less negative press, right across this country, about corrupt Chiefs living much better than the people of their bands.
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Treblehook wrote:Poverty, poor housing, poor healthcare, the absence of employment opportunities... the disadvantages go on and on. Huge amounts of money have been dumped into some of these aboriginal communities - to the extent that it is almost unbelievable - yet in some cases, nothing changes, so these aboriginal women continue to live in terrible circumstances, with little or no hope of improvement. If the media reports are at all accurate, a case in point would seem to be Athawapiskat Reserve in Ontario where the Chief [Teresa Spence] continues to reign with her husband, who is reportedly also on the band's payroll. Few seem willing to comment upon or to publicly condemn the financial management of communities like this. Are these situations not contributing to the hardship being endured by aboriginal women? I don't make these comments to be inflammatory, rather it seems obvious that simply pouring more money into these communities has not helped. In those locales where aboriginal leadership has been strong, with the interest of the people being first and foremost, circumstances are demonstratively better. There would seem to me to be lots of room for providing training to develop responsible and effective aboriginal leaders as well as [on the job mentoring] for aboriginal leaders where necessary. Would that not be an approach that could [potentially] improve the current situation? Perhaps then we would see less negative press, right across this country, about corrupt Chiefs living much better than the people of their bands.

yea i agree with everything you said here
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the absence of employment opportunities



this is 100% the fault of the parents,the chiefs(elders) and the free ride we are forced by law to give them!!
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From the Calgary sun.

On topic, I think.

Canadians shouldn’t face road closures because a small number of people aren’t getting exactly what they want from the government.

Yet that’s just what happened in the Caledonia region of Ontario over the weekend as the Six Nations Men’s Fire group blockaded Highway 6 to demand an inquiry into missing or murdered aboriginal women.

It’s one thing to have a protest at the side of the road, it’s another to shut things down. It’s an adversarial approach. It’s not one to win you allies.

We certainly agree that this is an issue that warrants attention. But blocking a road to demand the government create what will likely be a typical do-nothing inquiry isn’t the path forward.

Nor is hanging a banner with the ridiculous phrase: “End the government-sanctioned slaughter of indigenous women!”

This is what Winnipeg Sun columnist Tom Brodbeck wrote on the matter back in August, citing RCMP statistics:

“We know who’s killing aboriginal women. Most of them are men — 89%. Close to 40% of the killers were either the spouses or boyfriends of the victims, 23% of them were family members, and 30% were acquaintances. Only a small minority of the killers were strangers — 8%.”

In other words, this is a major problem within the aboriginal community.

We agree with the prime minister that this is also largely a law-and-order issue.

But there are broader matters at play. Various social and economic indicators on reserves are lousier than in the rest of Canada.

Statistics Canada tells us that in 2006 the unemployment rate for First Nations people living on reserve was 23.1%. The Canada-wide rate is only 6.6%.

No wonder aboriginal Canadians are at greater risk of becoming victims of serious crimes.

This isn’t an excuse, though. This is just greater cause for outrage on the part of all of us.

But the answer isn’t blocking the roads. In fact, the answer is to open them. Economic roads, that is.

For example, through Aboriginal Affairs, entrepreneurs can get start-up financing for businesses.

Young aboriginals should be spending their energy on efforts like this. The ripple effects can improve their whole community.

But blockades? They don’t benefit anyone.
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i hope the company that bought sun news , destroys it, worst journalism ever , makes cbc look like world leaders in news , that said , get ready for more of this till jt wins next election , they will not give up in the struggle to right the wrongs .



this is very telling of harpers mindset

Canada singled itself out as the only country to raise objections over a landmark United Nations document re-establishing the protection of the rights of indigenous people last week. It was a gesture one prominent First Nation leader called “saddening, surprising.”

“Canada was viewed always as a country that upheld human rights,” said Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations Chief Perry Bellegarde. “For Canada to be the only nation state to get up to make a caveat on the vote – that’s very telling.”

Bellegarde travelled to New York City to attend a special UN General Assembly meeting of more than 1,000 delegates and heads of state for the first-ever World Conference on Indigenous Peoples on Sept. 22 and 23.


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/02 ... 20Columbia


looks like the observations that other countries tell their own first nations to poundsand simply isnt true , except in harpers cowboy mind
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http://www.cnsnews.com/video/national/o ... ce-problem

Can the same logic of the USA problem be utilized with our Aboriginals in Canada?

Disintegration of the Aboriginal Family.... something to ponder.
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[quote="coffeeFreak"]Let's blame the victim and make them responsible to change a problem that is so systemically embedded in a society where violence against women is considered a "women's problem", rather than a societal one where the perpetrators and those, primarily of the same sex (forget race) stand by, say very little, leave it to women's groups to provide services (after the fact) to the women AND children impacted by this, and sadly, all too often, blame the victim. Example: [quote]

Its no wonder in this country we struggle to deal with issues like violence, against whoever, in what seems to be ineffective and unsuccessful ways. When its always portrayed as a race, sex, age, whatever only issue and while groups representing themselves within these categories only support and try to make it only their issue. So called stat's are useless in this country as they are so manipulated by so many different influences how can we use them to even start to deal with this effectively. Everyone needs to accept that's its an issue that effects everyone and everyone needs to acknowledge we are not going to solve it by singling out only one aspect within and to ignore that this issue is effecting and is also being caused by not one group, but by all the groups. Violence against children in this country is a perfect example of an area where through media and society we still act like its caused by one side. http://www.canadiancrc.com/Child_Abuse/ ... stics.aspx
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Has anyone been following the disappearance of Ms. Louis. Sadly there may be another one to add to the list. If you have been following it, can you see how difficult and quickly the trail ends? Even parents appear to be clueless as to who, where, and when she was last seen. Sadly she's also a mother, term used lightly.

http://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/ ... sing-woman
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