How many Canadian troops are in Iraq-israel-istan?

[Smurf]

These people are after every infidel and will not stop until we are all dead. We did not just suddenly appear on their list as most of North America are infidels. We have to do everything we can to rid the world of them. Even local Muslims are condemning them. They are extremists and must be stopped. The target was on our backs a long time before the air strikes.

[Atomoa]

The target was on our backs a long time before the air strikes.

I showed links to back up my claim. ISIS did not mention Canada until we joined the fight.

The whole "they hate everyone" line is straight out of the George W Bush war on terror propaganda playbook. Does anyone even believe it anymore when people say that? "They hate how free out women are!".

ISIS was created due to a illegal war in Iraq, started by "our allies". Infidels? Oh boy...

[canada bound]

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[Atomoa]

How will dropping some bombs via Canadian F-18's solve the problem of ISIS? We've done that to other terrorist/extreme groups non-stop since 9/11. Where has that got us? How effective will this really be?

My suggestion is that Canada needs to (1) Stop supporting governments and policies that have created this problem *USA included* and (2) Stop trying to kill these people and instead de-escalate and negotiate policies that work. If we just did (1) ISIS wouldn't exist and we wouldn't have to worry so much about being attacked or attacking.

This would mean that Canada could actually do something instead of just "looking like were doing something", prevent future terrorist groups from *forming* (let alone attacking) and not become targets by involving ourselves in violence. We wouldn't risk our troops and/or kill civilians by playing it cool either.

Joining the USA while the bombs burst in the air (now) and while they prop up or tear down governments (then/sooner or later) is not a path for world peace.

A few flights back and forth to Geneva, New York some lawyers salary and a whole bunch of copy toner VS. fuel, bombs and logistic support for 6 months of F-18 missions and the potential tax expenditure of having to make Canada "terrorist ready" after we are counter-attacked.

What option will yield better results for the amount of tax dollars (and possibly lives) invested?

I've quoted ISIS calling Canada out because we joined a non UN/NATO attack against them. Up until Stephen Harper started campaigning for the Israeli Foreign Ministry, Canada was a neutral peace broker and not a aggressor in the middle east (and thus target).

They are extremists and must be stopped.

Canada didn't join in the Iraq fight and help to create ISIS. All those videos of 1000's of people being executed by ISIS and the beheadings - all preventable. This is what happens when you blow countries up for oil. 10-15 years later you get bit in the *bleep* with crazies. This is true anywhere. Go to the "Southern US", take out the government violently, occupy a few states with the military for 10 years while unemployment sits at 50-60% and kill a few hundred thousand civilians. See what comes about. Extremists just need dirt to grow in. To further that thought - does anyone think dropping some bombs on Terrorist-Tennessee would turn back the clock and solve the hypothetical southern US issue?

Canada was not on the ISIS hit list before we decided to join in the hostilities against them. Room to discuss further if contrary links are posted.

Give these guys stability (social and government), jobs and a fair shake in the world market. Then see if they still want to kill people or if extremist groups grow.

In the nearly 42-minute long meandering propaganda speech uploaded to Twitter, ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani encourages Muslims to kill “disbelievers” in countries, including Canada, currently supporting American and French-backed military action against the group in Iraq “in any manner.”

[Smurf]

Atomoa your last quote says it all.

In the nearly 42-minute long meandering propaganda speech uploaded to Twitter, ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani encourages Muslims to kill “disbelievers” in countries, including Canada, currently supporting American and French-backed military action against the group in Iraq “in any manner.”

Just because he said in certain countries that does not mean "only in those countries". You have to remember that this and other radical groups want all disbelievers everywhere killed. They will not stop until the world is full of only believers. Right now they are killing anyone at random that is a disbeliever, nothing to do with the countries they live in. They are in their own countries, killing people at random. They are the aggressor and in no way want peace or any type of negotiations that fall short of every person on earth being a believer. Borders or countries mean nothing. Being disbelievers of their radical beliefs is the determining factor.

[maryjane48]

Just because he said in certain countries that does not mean "only in those countries". You have to remember that this and other radical groups want all disbelievers everywhere killed. They will not stop until the world is full of only believers. Right now they are killing anyone at random that is a disbeliever, nothing to do with the countries they live in. They are in their own countries, killing people at random. They are the aggressor and in no way want peace or any type of negotiations that fall short of every person on earth being a believer. Borders or countries mean nothing. Being disbelievers of their radical beliefs is the determining factor.

not so fast cowboy , we would not be in this mess , if the bushes hadnt wanted their own wars to write home about, and if the first pm of iraq had been more inclusive instead of just the one group, and if the us had armened the kurds , the kurds are excellent fighters and will kill any muslim group that gets out of hand in that region , im still not convinced isil is who the west says they are