Ex-Mountie B.C. MP led barricading of caucus
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A_Britishcolumbian wrote:so two ex mounties barricaded the door. if they were actual mounties, as is certainly possible, did they break the law by barricading the door?
Dude, it was martial law and they're military. Therefore no laws were broken.
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Retired Doctors still have their Doctorate...
Retired Lawyers still have their Law degrees....
Retired Accountants are still have their Accounting degrees...
Retired Welders still have their Welding certifications...
Retired Airline Pilots are still Pilots...
I fail to see that guys point. A Police Officer that retires still has the training, but is a civilian. My guess is, he doesn't understand simple concepts and lives in a bubble of loathing and despair for others that are successful.
Retired Lawyers still have their Law degrees....
Retired Accountants are still have their Accounting degrees...
Retired Welders still have their Welding certifications...
Retired Airline Pilots are still Pilots...
I fail to see that guys point. A Police Officer that retires still has the training, but is a civilian. My guess is, he doesn't understand simple concepts and lives in a bubble of loathing and despair for others that are successful.
You have to keep an open mind until it is proven one way or the other. You just can't take the T.V. or internet word on it.
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and how would any of those present a conflict of interest?
governance has a little more impact, a greater level responsibility.
governance has a little more impact, a greater level responsibility.
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Upon further investigation it is clear that David Wilks is a retired RCMP officer.
You have to keep an open mind until it is proven one way or the other. You just can't take the T.V. or internet word on it.
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So according to A_Britishcolumbian retired RCMP officers should not run for public office.
I don't give a damn whether people/posters like me or dislike me, I'm not on earth to win any popularity contests.
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A_Britishcolumbian wrote:and how would any of those present a conflict of interest?
Don't believe you thought this through very well. RCMP can be put in the same bracket as accountants and lawyers (i.e. crown counsel/lawyer - Canada Revenue Agency/accountant - Office of Public Safety/RCMP)
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GordonH wrote:So according to A_Britishcolumbian retired RCMP officers should not run for public office.
but it is ok for any other retired peace officer .... so here is a little quiz, what if you start your peace office career as a RCMP then transfer out to let's say Edmonton PD and then again to Saanich PD where you retire having spent a whole working career in service.
Still being young in years and heart you decide you want to run for office, or even work as a civilian member... is it ok because you did not actually retire from the RCMP?
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A_Britishcolumbian wrote:and how would any of those present a conflict of interest?
Fancy wrote:Don't believe you thought this through very well. RCMP can be put in the same bracket as accountants and lawyers (i.e. crown counsel/lawyer - Canada Revenue Agency/accountant - Office of Public Safety/RCMP)
Not to mention that many former members could easily be a lawyer, accountant, are CRA investigators, liquor control inspectors, transit police and on and on it goes.
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*removed*
those other professions to do not carry with them a pledge of alegiance that is contrary to the mandate of an elected office.
a 'retired' member is not at all the issue. it is the lack of truth that statement presents that is the issue.
like amrik, a former member must leave, not be a member of, the rcmp at the very least upon getting elected.
not so long ago a full 2/3 of parliamentarians were lawyers. i am glad that has changed, but i do feel that there are far too many former police, it seems like there has been a mission. i realize that other factors have created this present day fact, and some of them are not good either.
but simply, the sworn allegiance of a current member of rcmp conflicts with the obligations that come with public office.
those other professions to do not carry with them a pledge of alegiance that is contrary to the mandate of an elected office.
a 'retired' member is not at all the issue. it is the lack of truth that statement presents that is the issue.
like amrik, a former member must leave, not be a member of, the rcmp at the very least upon getting elected.
not so long ago a full 2/3 of parliamentarians were lawyers. i am glad that has changed, but i do feel that there are far too many former police, it seems like there has been a mission. i realize that other factors have created this present day fact, and some of them are not good either.
but simply, the sworn allegiance of a current member of rcmp conflicts with the obligations that come with public office.
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Apparently his expertise helped in this situation.Rookie B.C. Conservative MP David Wilks is far from the top of the pecking order when it comes to status and clout on Parliament Hill.
But the backbencher will walk into the weekly party caucus meeting here Wednesday morning — the first since last week’s terror attack — to encounter colleagues certain to have a greater sense of appreciation of his imposing presence.
The muscular six-foot-four, 256-pound ex-Mountie is one of a number of federal MPs with police, military or martial arts training who are being praised for their reassuring role in last week’s drama.
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Who the hell cares whether he is retired or not. There is a possibility he is still employed by the RCMP and his post as Sargent at Arms is an arms length appointment. He did a hell of a job and should be congratulated not torn apart by idiots like a_britishcolumbian.
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helped? how? do you really send these people to ottawa to build forts out of furniture?
maybe if they spent more time in the real world rather than behind closed doors they wouldn't be running for a closet and fearing for their lives when a gun goes off.
so good of you fancy, to highlight that wilks indeed is not impartial.
maybe if they spent more time in the real world rather than behind closed doors they wouldn't be running for a closet and fearing for their lives when a gun goes off.
Wilks, who served in the RCMP’s Emergency Response Team in Nelson and was the investigating officer in the 1991 riot during a concert at the Penticton Peach Festival. “I always assume they’re bad guys unless I hear or am told differently.”
so good of you fancy, to highlight that wilks indeed is not impartial.
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Again you are thinking of another poster - I didn't say anything about being impartial.A_Britishcolumbian wrote:so good of you fancy, to highlight that wilks indeed is not impartial.
is what I said.Apparently his expertise helped in this situation.
Apparently I'm not the only one that thinks his past job was an asset.
“They were incredible, ex-military too,” Mr. Benoit said. “It’s absolutely incredible having that presence, the former police officers, the former military officers. They’re cool heads, they’re taking command right away, remarkable, what an asset. They are an asset in making legislation and they were an asset in protecting us yesterday.”
http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2014 ... guns/40022
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Stupid is as stupid does, what is your problem with this ex rcmp? Mockhair is a lawyer and an ex mla in Quebec of which Quebec is known to be corrupt is he corrupt in your view. This makes about as much sense as bc with he/she bumbling.
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alfred2, rcmp in parliament is not the only problem.
of the big 3 parties, would anyone be willing to call any single one of them 'clean' or 'honest'? not me.
when stephen and i parted from mulroney and the pcs, stephen went to manning, i went to hurtig.
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we once were aligned.
i know what he knows, i knew what he was going to do. what he is and has been doing.
rcmp in the commons is his design.
of the big 3 parties, would anyone be willing to call any single one of them 'clean' or 'honest'? not me.
when stephen and i parted from mulroney and the pcs, stephen went to manning, i went to hurtig.
http://www.natparty.com/
we once were aligned.
i know what he knows, i knew what he was going to do. what he is and has been doing.
rcmp in the commons is his design.
I'm not worried what I say, if they see it now or they see it later, I said it. If you don't know maybe that would hurt you, I don't know. You should know though, so you don't get hurt, so you know what side to be on when it happens.
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