Scientists Call On Harper To Restore Funding

[Glacier]

World's Scientists Call On Stephen Harper To Restore Science Funding, Freedom
Unfortunately, the Huffy didn't do their homework. The Huffington post writes that "World's Scientists Call On Stephen Harper To Restore Science," citing a letter from "800 scientists outside Canada from 32 countries." This group that wrote the letter calls itself the "Union of Concerned Scientists"

The problem is the aforementioned group is not a union of scientists at all. It's a green energy lobby group that anyone can join. In fact, the dog in the picture (Kenji) is a card carrying member.



Since Kenji must be one of the dumbest "scientists" in the world, I'm left to wonder about the rest of the group.

[Atomoa]

Muddy the waters on such a important issue?

Stephen Harper (more accurately the people he lobby's for) is anti-science, anti-data and shoots from the hip. His government has silenced, cutback and even assassinated the character of scientists for presenting data that goes against "party lines".

No amount of distraction, dilution or pictures of puppies will change that fact. But good try!

[alfred2]

man you are way wrong atooma.

[maryjane48]

man you are way wrong atooma.

facts say otherwise

[hobbyguy]

Look at the science of running government affairs. To manage the public service properly, you need accurate data. StatsCan no longer provides accurate, in depth data. They mumble about with amounts to little more than a poll, and we know how accurate those are. And it isn't just the federal government that should be using accurate management data, the same data was used by provincial governments, regional governments, and municipalities as well as government crown corporations and organizations like Translink.

Old rule of management school: "if you can't measure it, you can't manage it".

I guess Mr. Harper has a bias against using fact and results based based management. That's why he killed the long form census... Of course, that does give Mr. Harper the opportunity to create myths through advertising - because there are no hard facts to debunk the spin...

So the jist of the OP may be correct with regard to one specific statement by one news outlet, but: http://www.academicmatters.ca/2013/05/harpers-attack-on-science-no-science-no-evidence-no-truth-no-democracy/
http://www.macleans.ca/authors/julia-belluz/the-scientists-vs-harper/
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/22/new-york-times-criticizes-harper-governments-alleged-muzzling-of-scientists-to-protect-oil-sands/

and on, and on, ad infinitum...

[bob vernon]

Accurate statistics would only get twisted around by the leftists and socialists. What really matters is tax cutting and the reduction of goverment to the point where the bare minimum is being done by the goverment. We don't need frills.

For this country to compete internationally, we have to cut our expenses. And if that means wage reductions, so be it. And the removal of frills like pensions and medicare. Canada can't compete with China and India right now, and now the NDP want to raise our taxes to fund come kind of child care program. People have to learn to make do with less. Simple as that.

[logicalview]

Since Kenji must be one of the dumbest "scientists" in the world, I'm left to wonder about the rest of the group.

Actually, well she may be a dumb scientist, Kenji no doubt would be one of the smartest leftists, in Canada anyway. She may want to consider running when Jenny Kwan retires, as even a dead dog could win for the NDP in that riding, and Kenji is actually still alive.

This is typical of yet another idiotic leftist group masquerading as some kind of charity. Huffpoop is a joke for even carrying this ludicrous story.

[logicalview]

facts say otherwise

so this dog isn't a member of this silly organization? What facts do you have to counter Glacier's claim?

[maryjane48]

lol who cares about a dog in a picture? facts are harper wanting to control canadian scientists , im not going provide links when even your bible sun news has said as much

[logicalview]

lol who cares about a dog in a picture? facts are harper wanting to control canadian scientists ,

This thread isn't about Harper wanting to control scientists, or whatever foolish rhetoric the idiot left is babbling today, it's about Huffpoop running a fake story by a fake union of scientists, who has a dog as a member. Why would a fake group run a fake news story? Does this mean that their actual concern about Harper controlling scientists is fake too? It would seem so.

If Harper wants to control scientists so much, why would a group masquerading as something its not, with a dog signed up as a member, have to go to such lengths to put a fake news item on Huffpoop? It makes no sense. It seems that the only people/groups crying about this "control" issue are idiot leftists. These people I do not trust, given they lie, constantly, to cover up for their own ignorance. What is the real issue here? If there is any control going on, it would be tough to find when it is clearly buried under a mountain of alarmist BS. Shame on this group for lying about who it really is, and shame on the boobs in this thread that are defending them.

[JLives]

A simple visit to their website would show you the members are for donations and calls to action (letter writing, signing petitions etc.) . http://www.ucsusa.org/about-us#.VIeLdjHF98E

You can find the main scientists and leaders clearly listed here: http://www.ucsusa.org/about/leadership- ... IeL3jHF98E Sorry, there are no dogs listed.

That blog post was a gross misrepresentation of what the Union of Concerned Scientists is. Donating in your dog's name does not have anything to do with their credibility and it would have been really easy for you to fact check that.

I donate to Doctors Without Borders, that doesn't make me a medical professional.

[logicalview]

I donate to Doctors Without Borders, that doesn't make me a medical professional.

I looked at donating to them, but they are so crazy nuts left-wing, that it just doesn't appeal to me.

I read some of Hobbyguy's links and I've tried to read other stuff on this so-called "muzzling" of scientists. As I suspected, about 1% of what these fanatics are saying is true. Like the man-made climate change myth, these people are letting emotion get in the way of actual facts. Have things changed in the way science is funded? It definitely sounds like it. But has spending gone down? Doesn't look like it. What it looks like to me is a bunch of leftists, deliberately spinning the current changes into the negative, these spins are jumped on by leftist idiots who willingly believe anything and everything, unquestioningly, as long as it's a negative about Harper, and off they go, barfing up a giant ball of garbage, that isn't even close to true, with their typical ideological leftist fervor, the truth being left far behind in the name of stupid dogma. What a surprise.

This is why these guys are their own worst enemies.

[JLives]

I looked at donating to them, but they are so crazy nuts left-wing, that it just doesn't appeal to me.

Say what? Since when is offering medical attention in conflict and disaster zones partisan?

[logicalview]

Say what? Since when is offering medical attention in conflict and disaster zones partisan?

Exactly.

To:
The Chief Operational Officer
Médecins Sans Frontières
Sent to the Australian Office and New York Office
Subject: Dismay

Dear Sir/Madam

When my daughter wed in July 2006, in lieu of gifts she asked for donations to be made to Doctors without Borders / Medecins Sans Frontieres as our family had always supported the Group. Well, I have a regret. I've just read a presentation by Alan Dershowitz "Doctors Without Borders erected borders when it came to Israeli doctors who flew to the Congo to treat 50 local villagers who had been severely burned. The Israeli volunteers worked around the clock, treated the burn victims and trained local doctors to perform skin grafts, and donated tons of medical equipment. But Doctors Without Borders refused to work with the Israeli medics and para medics and treated them "as though we were occupiers." - quoted one Israeli medic.

Dr. Marie Pierre Allie, President of the French branch of the organization, said that "Israel's actions in Gaza were actually worse than the Darfur genocide in the Sudan."Only a blind moonbat could even make such a comparison! MSF has an apparent problem with one democratic Jewish State but is quite at ease with the existence and actions of 56 dysfunctional & corrupt Islamic states.

As one critic has put it well, "These are Doctors With Borders - and without scruples." Google "Doctors without Borders Israel" and you will get more confirmation of the reactions around the world. My family will no longer donate to Doctors without Borders until this cynical, hateful and bitter culture towards Israel - which obviously emanates from the top - ceases. I shall disseminate this email as widely as I can and shall ask recipients to forward it on also.

Written by a Gentleman from Melbourne, Australia

[JLives]

I know when I am trying to present factual information to back up my point I always go with Gentleman from Melbourne, Australia.

Sorry, sounds stupid to me. They have done a ton of good in the world and that's what matters. I donate to Salvation Army too despite their controversy.