Expanded Iraq mission - surprise surprise.

[Atomoa]

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015 ... alkom.html

Canada and the West losing war against ISIS: Walkom

The U.S. already has 3,100 soldiers in Iraq and has just announced it will send 450 more. The New York Times reports that Washington is planning to establish a network of bases in Iraq that could require several hundred additional U.S. soldiers.

And soon Canada will be a permanent fixture there too!

Meanwhile, the region continues to disintegrate. Major cities have fallen to the Islamic State, sometimes known as ISIS, in both Iraq and Syria. Taking advantage of the power vacuum created by the 2011 NATO attacks on former Libyan strongman Moammar Ghadafi, ISIS militants are expanding into that country as well

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Jason Kenney was bragging about doing business with Gaddafi before Ghaddafi turned around and said he wouldn't be trading oil in US dollars anymore. Then Jason Kenny said Gaddafi deserved to die and signed a 500lb bomb as we blew the richest country in Africa up to get at the oil. Now the country is in chaos and is overrunn by ISIS, but we can (sorta) get at the oil.

Good job Canada!

The more ISIS comes under Western attack, the more prestige it reaps.Militants from Nigeria to Yemen to Afghanistan now identify themselves as part of the Islamic State.

Just like they planned. Draw us in and gain notoriety by fighting the west. Every ISIS soldier we kill on their home land gives them 5 recruits via pubic relations. I wrote about this, 6+ months ago.

Right now, Canada is helping to train Kurdish peshmerga militias in northern Iraq to fight the Islamic State. We should not be surprised if these same militias eventually take advantage of this training to try for the ultimate prize — an independent Kurdistan carved out of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey.

History repeats itself. We arm rebels to do our dirty work then they go home and turn it around on us.

Ottawa admits to only 69 ground troops in Iraq. But unlike their U.S. counterparts, these Canadian advisers accompany local troops to the front lines. They also, again unlike U.S. soldiers, call in airstrikes.

Harper recognizes that many Canadians still have bad memories of the Afghan war. As a result, and with an election in the offing, his Conservatives are trying to walk a fine line.

On the one hand, they present themselves as the only party with enough guts to take on ISIS. On the other, they insist that Canadian troops — even those taking and returning fire on the front lines — are not involved in combat.

The election war. Vote in Stephen if we want a permanent Canadian presence in Iraq. How Canadian of us - we're imperialist conquerors helping out in a illegal war.

[Smurf]

I agree it is time to stop fooling around and start using some real bombs to clean this mess up once and for all.

[Atomoa]

That's what the US did in 2003 in Iraq, once and for all.

That's what we did in Afghanistan, once and for all.

That's what we did in Libya, once and for all.

Now they are all overrun with ISIS because of it. Now what?

(Unless you are talking about genocide at this point, which seems likely)

[bob vernon]

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[Smurf]

Atomoa as usual you didn't pay any attention to what was said.

I said: "it is time to stop fooling around and start using some real bombs to clean this mess up once and for all."

[Donald G]

To Bob Vernon ...

A rather damning comment to make unless you have significant proof of what you are saying.

Please confirm that you are talking about Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister of Canada and that you are willing to confirm and stand behind the information that you have given about his religious beliefs.

Best you clarify your apparent unfounded insinuation or withdraw your comment.

The moderator might wish to examine it as being open to legal action.

[SmokeOnTheWater]

The moderator might wish to examine it as being open to legal action.

ROTFLMAO

[Donald G]

If the moderator considers the comment acceptable, so be it.

[Atomoa]

Curious what happens when we kill civilians in Syria?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e26155601/

As The Globe and Mail first reported Friday, the Canadian Armed Forces has known for seven months of an allegation that its CF-18s killed non-combatants during an air strike northwest of Mosul, Iraq – and kept it under wraps until this week.

[Donald G]

To Atomoa ...

Only a person living in an NDP fantasyland would have the completely unrealsist idea that many civilians get injured and killed as the result of a war.

When the enemy places their guns and missiles among residences you either have to let the enemy continue to fire their guns and missiles into the civilian population that you are defending or try to STRATEGICALLY take out the gun or missile with full knowledge that the "protective" shield of civilians near the gun may be harmed or killed. That is simple reality.

It is another case where the NDP using "other means" does not reflect reality.

The fact that Canadian Pilots have a reputation for having and being among the best strategic bombers in the world is a credit to Canada and Canadian Armed Forces equipment.

Using such horrible war caused situations for political purposes is completely disgraceful.

[Atomoa]

Do ISIS wear uniforms?

If they don't, how can you tell a ISIS soilder holding a AK from a Iraqi or Syrian civilian holding a AK? Especially when you don't speak Farsi and only have Satellite photos to look at.

The Israelis killed about 3000 civilians to kill about a dozen Hamas soilders. Canada supports that action. Maybe we can achieve those numbers as well?

Also... NDP? Huh?

The military has been sitting in this report to keep it quiet, most likley due to the election. Keeping civilian deaths quiet until after the election is a current government issue Donald.

[Donald G]

To Atomoa ...

I take it that your claim of killing 3000 civilians in order to kill one ISIS target is, as usual, something that you have simply dreamed up in order to try to make your false allegation seem credible. WADR your comments are IMO more a work of fiction than a description of reality, but completely consistent with the NDP and Liberal ongoing gang crusade to discredit the Conservatives and "GET HARPER" in an effort to increase their chances of getting elected.

No thought to what is best for Canada and Canadians though.

[JLives]

To Atomoa ...

Only a person living in an NDP fantasyland would have the completely unrealsist idea that many civilians get injured and killed as the result of a war.

When the enemy places their guns and missiles among residences you either have to let the enemy continue to fire their guns and missiles into the civilian population that you are defending or try to STRATEGICALLY take out the gun or missile with full knowledge that the "protective" shield of civilians near the gun may be harmed or killed. That is simple reality.

It is another case where the NDP using "other means" does not reflect reality.

The fact that Canadian Pilots have a reputation for having and being among the best strategic bombers in the world is a credit to Canada and Canadian Armed Forces equipment.

Using such horrible war caused situations for political purposes is completely disgraceful.

What the hell does the NDP have to do with Iraq? Get a grip Donald.

[Atomoa]

but completely consistent with the NDP and Liberal ongoing gang crusade to discredit the Conservatives and "GET HARPER" in an effort to increase their chances of getting elected.

In this case it seems the military is keeping civilian deaths in Iraq/Syria a secret until after the election, because it's the Conservatives war. A war they wish to continue and escalate.

[Donald G]

Atomoa ...

WADR, if you think that there are not a significant number of unintended or non targeted casualties in EVERY war against Terrorism you are not dealing in reality.

The Canadian pilots and planes are known the world over for their ability to precision bomb. But whe the Terrorist enemy places their guns and missles among the civilians the choice is either to let them continue firing their guns and missles into the people you are protecting or take out the guns and missles with as little colateral damage as possible.

The NDP mantra of "use alternate means" does nothing but allow the Terrorists to keep wilfully killing completely innocent civilian mothers, fathers, sons and daughters.