SCoC: Khadr not adult offender

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I'm guessing although released there will always be an eye on Khadr to make certain he makes no contact with known people with extremists views.
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Smurf wrote:As far as I am concerned he gave up any rights to be a Canadian as soon as he went over there and fought against Canadians, Americans and other western countries.


He was taken there by his parents. You know, because he was a child.
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I'll give you that one he was a child. But has anyone noticed that they came here, I believe became citizens and then left because the mother did not like Canadian values. They kept living in Afghanistan/Pakistan until the father got hurt and then suddenly, Canada is good enough for them again or at least our health system. I do not believe they are Canadian citizens except as it serves their purpose. I do not believe any of them should be here and that includes Omar. I believe he should still be in prison. That is my opinion.
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Smurf wrote:I'll give you that one he was a child. But has anyone noticed that they came here, I believe became citizens and then left because the mother did not like Canadian values. They kept living in Afghanistan/Pakistan until the father got hurt and then suddenly, Canada is good enough for them again or at least our health system. I do not believe they are Canadian citizens except as it serves their purpose. I do not believe any of them should be here and that includes Omar. I believe he should still be in prison. That is my opinion.


I agree with you except for the reference he was a child - he was not. He was 2 weeks from his 16th birthday. 16-year-olds are considered young adults by most - only as children when referenced to their parents.

Canada made the agreement with the U.S. that Khadr would serve his time as a condition for his release and our justice system essentially ignored the agreement with the U.S. . . . so why all the *bleep* and moaning, it's the media party, Khadr's lawyer and all the bleeding heart supporters that made such a stink about heartless Harper sticking to the agreement made to the U.S.
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We need to get some of these leftist judges off the Supreme Court and have some replacements by Harper....... after he gets another majority. We need some judges like Vic Toews on the bench to put some of these criminals away for good. Some of these SCo judges are holdovers from previous Prime Ministers. How long have these socialist judges been sitting there doing this kind of stuff? I'm betting most of them are old Liberal hacks appointed by Chretien and Martin. Time to fire some of them and replace them with law-and-order guys.
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Time to get some law and order in the whole justice system. The revolving doors a joke. Some in fact most of the sentences for murder are a joke. Todays world does not consider a life worth anything.
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bob vernon wrote:We need to get some of these leftist judges off the Supreme Court and have some replacements by Harper....... after he gets another majority.

Harper has appointed 7 of the 9 current Supreme Court justices.
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A few things I learned from last night's CBC schlockfest:

1. Always go into a CBC show expecting it to be one-sided and full of leftist propaganda. That's so when it is completely one-sided and full of leftist propaganda you are expecting it, so even if it makes you mad, you can't say it wasn't expected.

2. Don't dwell on the fact that your tax dollars helped to create the leftist one-sided propaganda. That just is too depressing.

3. Omar Khadr has one brown eye and one blue eye. That was interesting. Never knew that before.

4. Dennis Edney is clearly enjoying his 15 minutes of fame with his star client. The CBC gave him almost more screen time then Khadr. I see now why he made such a clown of himself with his "Harper is a bigot" comment on national TV. He doesn't want the spotlight to stop shining, and mostly on him for being such a big compassionate guy for all he's done here.

5. Omar's sister is clearly cut from the same cloth as her dad. Her comment that "The US military killed Omar's friends, so he should be able to kill one of them" clearly shows that she doesn't understand how the real world works, or how the US military works.

6. At the end of the "documentary", if it could be called that, the interviewer asks Khadr is there is anything he would change about the past 12 years. He thinks for a bit, and then says "Maybe the fire-fight. Maybe." Oh you mean that "fire-fight" where you killed a medic in cold blood, the medic with the wife and kids? The one that resulted in you being critically injured and your apparent "friends" being killed? The one that lead you to be incarcerated for 12 years? That one? "Maybe" you'd change that part? Really???? REALLY???????

7. He says he just wants to go on living his life. I think he's done his time, and so everyone should let him. The problem is that he is now a political football, and a rock-star for the leftist cause, so I don't think he will be allowed to just live his life. I expect him to pop up as a federal NDP candidate in the next election after the one this year, and millions of taxpayer dollars to be wasted on a full feature CBC film that will be more one-sided nonsense. And the question will be - will he want to just live his life? Or milk the saps willing to pony up and keep the popularity-seekers like his lawyer in the spotlight? We shall see.
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Yes, damn those leftist Harper-appointed Supreme Court judges that didn't just throw away the key.
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This is what I gleaned from the CBC Doc:

The shrapnel pieces found in the dead medic didn't support the kind of grenade that was used by The Taliban.

It was seemingly possible that he would have been found not guilty by the US prosecution if he had actually gone to trial because of inconsistencies in the evidence in regards to physical (shrapnel). Also Omar's body positioning when he was found didn't support the physical location of where the deadly grenade was allegedly thrown from.

He was a child who was groomed by a family deeply entrenched in their ideology. A teenager who really didn't have a choice about where/what/who he was associated with. He was basically sold by his family as a soldier's aide and a fighter for the cause. I would challenge most people in his situation to make choices that were different than he did. He was a victim of his environment and social culture.

And finally, he served his time.
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Yes but I believe he will end up back with the family that did it to him. With the mother that took him out of Canada because she didn't believe in our culture, until the father was injured and it suited them. What is going to happen when he gets back there. Will we find out he's not nearly so innocent and falls right back into the fold. I believe Canada is more a convenient place to get them out of trouble than a place they actually want to be and to me that is wrong and there is too much of it going on. We need citizens that truly believe in Canada and it's values.
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He is barred from meeting certain family members, and only then under direct supervision.
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He might be at this moment, but I'll guarantee you there will come a time and I'll bet it won't be in the too distant future.


EDIT TO ADD: Remember all the bleeding hearts will be crying because he can't see his family. Canada is so cruel. I say if he wants to see them, send them all back to Pakistan or wherever and they can get together there.
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If it's true that they left because they didn't like our values, that they indoctrinated him to be a terrorist, that they gave him up to be a soldier, why do we want any of them here???????????????????
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