Trudeau Approves GMO Salmon "Safe for Consumption"

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Anyway, as I said, if you have a scientific article that shows GMO salmon is unsafe for consumption, please post it here.
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Jonrox wrote: These salmon are also only approved to be grown in tanks on land, so even if one escapes I don't think it's going to make it very far.


Oh I dunno about that Jonrox...perhaps the GM Salmon will sprout wings and fly or morph some legs and walk...or worse yet like the former famous escaping octopus, they could grow limbs that can open doors and windows and crawl out into the great beyond.
LOL...all kidding aside.

Whatever side of the fence you sit on with regards to this topic, I think that the consumer should be allowed to make their own choices in Canada. We label farm raised salmon as such as we do wild salmon. I think the GM products need to be labeled as such so people can make their own choices.
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Jonrox wrote:Here's a little excerpt from a story I found:


The FDA also said that there is no “material difference” between the GM Atlantic salmon and the non-GM Atlantic salmon which means there will be no compulsory requirement for the product to be labelled as GM produce.

Detailed scientific assessments have concluded that the GM salmon is just as nutritious as non-GM salmon and that there are “no biologically differences to the nutritional profile” of the GM salmon compared to other types of farmed salmon, the FDA said.



Therefore, the study on humans you're looking for is simply that people have been eating regular salmon for a long time and the GMO salmon is the same as those, so is also safe to eat.

This move also isn't anti-environment... it has no impact on the environment whatsoever. These salmon are also only approved to be grown in tanks on land, so even if one escapes I don't think it's going to make it very far.


It is your choice to believe the FDA blindly. Most I would think choose to be a bit more discerning after all the recalls but to each his own.

I don't think "material difference" is a very accurate scientific term to use when discussing biological traits. Also, your example is talking about a "GM Atlantic Salmon and Non GM Atlantic Salmon" (as opposed to, for example, adding the growth hormone of a Chinook into an Atlantic salmon).

Could you specify what genetic trait was modified? You claim this is something you read, so I would like to see the source and also if you can tell me which genetic trait was modified in the Atlantic Salmon. Thanks.

ETA: The risks and possible impact on the environment have been pointed out in this thread by more than one person. Being repetitive serves no purpose.
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It's just a news article talking about the same salmon that was just approved in Canada...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/genetically-modified-salmon-becomes-first-to-be-approved-for-human-consumption-but-it-wont-have-to-a6741031.html

And you're right, there's no sense being repetitive about the environmental impact argument that was brought up earlier because it's irrelevant given that the GM salmon are grown in tanks on land... and can't walk to the ocean after escaping their tanks.

Here's one more quote (albeit a very biased one from the company who produced the GM salmon) that lays out a relevant pro-environment stance:

Its inventors at a Massachusetts company called AquaBounty Technologies have argued that the salmon can be grown nearer to end markets with greater efficiency than the Atlantic salmon currently reared in remote coastal fish farms – making it better for the environment, with recycled waste and lower transport costs.
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I haven't read through this (and won't because I'm sure I won't understand it), but here's the FDA study:

http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/GeneticEngineering/GeneticallyEngineeredAnimals/ucm280853.htm
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We only eat wild salmon but I wouldn't hesitate to eat farmed salmon that has been genetically modified. I'll continue to eat kale, broccoli, and cauliflower as well.

Other genetically modified organisms from wild cabbage include broccoli and cauliflower. So when you think of being a good raw foodie, eating those great greens of kale, broccoli, and even cauliflower- consider this- they are all genetically modified – but that does not mean they are not nutritious.
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And here's the Canadian study:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/gmf-agm/appro/aquadvantage-salmon-saumon-faq-eng.php

With specific links to:

Health Canada assessed the safety and nutrition of AquAdvantage Salmon for use as food:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/gmf-agm/appro/aquadvantage-salmon-saumon-eng.php

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) assessed the safety and nutrition of AquAdvantage Salmon for use as a livestock feed:
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/plants/plants-with-novel-traits/approved-under-review/decision-documents/dd2016-117/eng/1463076782568/1463076783145

Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC) assessed the risk to the environment:
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/csas-sccs/Publications/ScR-RS/2013/2013_023-eng.html

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this thread is way more work than it's worth. i'm locking it and leaving it for reading.
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