Pot law chaos? That’s on Trudeau

[Beavis]

Don't forget people that even if they legalise it as they say with restrictions, penalties etc. testing on job sites could still be legal and likely. You do get thrown off job sites for alcohol use.

Duh, that's no big surprise to anyone.

My comments were related to the goofy practice of using urine samples to test for drugs before being allowed access to a project. For most drugs, and alcohol, this makes sense - you don't want someone who can't abstain for at least the 3 days it takes for the substance to metabolize and leave the body (or few hours in the case of alcohol) to be showing up on an industrial project. For cannabis, however, this is a silly way of doing things because for some people, the primitive urine sample method will show use in the past 2-3 weeks. Hardly indicative of a problem user. Testing methods with a more precise timeframe do exist, but are seldom employed due to ignorance and weird attitudes.

[Smurf]

If better, reasonable tests exist they should be used however the choice is still a personal one. If you know you could be tested and you value your job do not use, it's that simple.

[maryjane48]

Don't forget people that even if they legalise it as they say with restrictions, penalties etc. testing on job sites could still be legal and likely. You do get thrown off job sites for alcohol use.

but do they test to see if booze in a persons systemike they might with any other drug . for example if you need to get tested before being hired does having alcohol in your body disqualify you like weed might . and what about precription drugs ?

[Smurf]

That is up to the business involved. I have seen men thrown off the job and out of camp for drinking. I have seen men thrown out of camps for smoking in their rooms. Depends on the site and the rules they wish to enforce. It is up to you yo know and make up your own mind. It's called being responsible.

[maryjane48]

That is up to the business involved. I have seen men thrown off the job and out of camp for drinking. I have seen men thrown out of camps for smoking in their rooms. Depends on the site and the rules they wish to enforce. It is up to you yo know and make up your own mind. It's called being responsible.

yes that is all true but i have never heard of anyone going for pre screening drug tedt ans being denied because of booze or nicotine in their system . and if its prescriotion drugs most get a chance to provide a docs note .plus if you juice raw weed you will test positive even though there is no mild altering substances in your body because thc-a is not same as thc

[Queen K]

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#168401

Maybe if we had clear pot laws, or legalized pot, maybe just maybe lives would not be threatened over a barrel of packaged pot found in the forest.

And then the guy who lost his barrel off a forest logging road would be able to go into the RCMP and claim it.

"Thanks Constable."
"No worries!"

Instead we have this, a news story leaving more questions than answers.

[dieseluphammerdown]

yes that is all true but i have never heard of anyone going for pre screening drug tedt ans being denied because of booze or nicotine in their system . and if its prescriotion drugs most get a chance to provide a docs note .plus if you juice raw weed you will test positive even though there is no mild altering substances in your body because thc-a is not same as thc

Why is so hard for pothead Trudope supporters to get through their heads Pot is illegal , while nicotine and alcohol aren't .
You just have to LOL at Trudope supporters trying to justify their illegal habit.

[maryjane48]

thats not the point i was making . im simply saying once it is legal it should be dropped from prescreening tests . and roadside test wint be legal until tbey can test for recent use because of how long it stays in your system . btw pots not against the law for me and thousands others . only for rec use not medical

[Pat-Taporter]

Report on Legalization available today.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/3 ... ion-of.pdf

[Ka-El]

Teenagers get green light in pot report

OTTAWA - Eighteen-year-olds should be allowed to buy recreational cannabis when the Liberal government launches a globe-leading social experiment in legalizing marijuana next year, a federally appointed task force said Tuesday.

The age limit — and the hazy science of pot-impaired driving — were among the most contentious aspects during five months of hearings and research, task force vice-chair Dr. Mark Ware told a news conference in the parliamentary precinct.

The framework report is recommending storefront and mail-order sales to people 18 and older, with personal growing limits of four plants per person and a 30-gram limit on personal possession.

No other major western country — with the exception of Uruguay, population 3.5 million — has fully legalized and the world will be watching.

The green light for teenagers helped boost stock prices for marijuana producers on the Toronto Stock Exchange and produced a sharp exchange in the House of Commons, where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended his government's policy direction without committing to following all the task force's 80-plus recommendations when legislation is introduced next spring.

"Right now kids have easy access to cannabis across this country. We need to change that," Trudeau said of his government's two cannabis-related policy priorities.

"Secondly, to remove the source of significant revenue to criminal organizations and street gangs who benefit for the illicit trade of cannabis."

The 106-page framework covers everything from advertising and branding — effectively banned, similar to tobacco — to penalties for illicit production and trafficking, all legislated under a proposed new Cannabis Control Act.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/te ... id=SL5MDHP

[Ka-El]

Canadian marijuana stocks on a high after panel recommends widespread retail sale

The recreational market for marijuana should allow for a “diversity” of companies to sell through storefronts and mail-orders, but limit advertising and marketing of brands, suggested a federal task force report released Tuesday.

Canadian marijuana stocks moved higher after the federal Task Force on Marijuana Legalization and Regulation released its 106- page report of 80 recommendations for the government’s planned end to cannabis prohibition.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/savingan ... id=SL5MDHP

[Rosemary1]

UM wonder what's next ? Maybe lowering the voting age before 2020 to get more of the youth vote?.

[BobH]

Ya wouldn't it be a great world if nobody stood up to B.S laws put forth by greedy corporate run governments? Wasn't slavery legal at one time, illegal for women to vote....The list goes on and on...

Thank you to all the people that have stood up to B.S laws and corporate governments.

[maryjane48]

your welcome.people like started in 20 to 30 years ago get wed legal . we won .enjoy

[fluffy]

The whole idea with drug and alcohol testing for work purposes is job site safety. They test for a relatively limited range of substances focusing on those that affect performance, generally alcohol, pot, and opiates. They don't care if the drugs/alcohol/whatever are legal or not, if they are in your system you are considered to be performing at less than 100% hence a hazard to yourself and those around you. The pot thing is a legitimate concern though, as with urine testing you can test positive long after the performance reducing aspects have disappeared. I think the thing with the more accurate tests is 1.) a lack of comparative statistics as to what constitutes impairment, and 2.) the time and qualifications needed to administer the tests.

Like Smurf says, if the job is that important to you, then don't smoke the stuff.