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Canadian citizens with dual citizenships will soon be allowed to fly into the country only if they have a Canadian passport.

The policy will come into effect Sept. 30 as a final phase of Canada’s move to an electronic screening system to step up border security and boost exit control of travellers, including Canadians on government benefits.

The upcoming requirement has caught many by surprise calling the practice “discriminatory” against dual citizens and a money grab, and is expected to create havoc as travellers with dual Canadian citizenships may find out only at the last minute when trying to board on a flight.

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If you are a legitimate citizen, have a legitimate passport. It's hardly a capital cost to pay for one. Calling discrimination is where any claim lost me, it's a sad cry to save $85 bucks. boo hoo.


I will say though, those affected should receive a letter at the least notifying them of this fact and not at a terminal.
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There actually is a legitimate issue with this policy. If one with dual citizenship wants to travel to a country where their Canadian passport requires a visa but their other nationality doesn't and if you book a trip from Canada to that country, having to now use your Canadian passport you'd be required to acquire the appropriate visa.
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Dizzy1 wrote:There actually is a legitimate issue with this policy. If one with dual citizenship wants to travel to a country where their Canadian passport requires a visa but their other nationality doesn't and if you book a trip from Canada to that country, having to now use your Canadian passport you'd be required to acquire the appropriate visa.



where does it infer that? It says if they want to travel BACK into Canada they need a CANADIAN passport
besides that if your happy living in the country that your a dual citizen of simply renounce your CDN one and solves the issue
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It's $120 for a five year Canadian passport. Here's why this is a money grab. This only applies if you fly into Canada. If you were to fly into Seattle and drive across the border you can use your other passport. So this policy doesn't really effectively stop what is supposed to be the reason for the change.
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Good point it should be changed that they have to have a Canadian passport to get back into Canada regardless of how they come. Problem solved.
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If they feel there Canadian then get a dahm Canadian passport just like we all do

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dontrump wrote:

where does it infer that? It says if they want to travel BACK into Canada they need a CANADIAN passport

Usually, if you purchase a roundtrip ticket you can only use one passport for travel both outbound and inbound - you can't use both under most circumstances - the options you have are to buy separate oneway tickets all the way to your destination or, in the case of a possible connection, by two round trip connections, one to the point of connection and the other to your final destination. Both options can elevate travel costs, and in the case of connecting flights with two separate tickets, you no longer have automatic coverage in the case of missing a connection due to flight delays.
dontrump wrote:besides that if your happy living in the country that your a dual citizen of simply renounce your CDN one and solves the issue

Many dual citizens have dual passports - and they are citizens of both countries.
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dontrump wrote:If they feel there Canadian then get a dahm Canadian passport just like we all do

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Many have a "dahm" Canadian Passport :up:
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Smurf wrote:Good point it should be changed that they have to have a Canadian passport to get back into Canada regardless of how they come. Problem solved.

As I commented in my above post, you can typically only use one passport while traveling on a single ticket. So if you use your Canadian passport, you have to follow the Visa requirements and if you use your other passport, you have to follow what ever new requirements that will be required to enter Canada again despite the fact that you are a Canadian Citizen.
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So just think, a Canadian/British dual citizen could show up at YVR with their British passport and be denied entry while his British friend flying with him can enter Canada with his British passport no problem.

This same Canadian/British dual citizen would have to enter Canada on his Canadian passport and then return to the UK using his Canadian passport, which would then not allow him to work there or stay longer than 6 months, even though he is also a British citizen.

Unless of course he flew into Seattle and then drove across the border using his British Passport.

How does any of that really make sense?

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Usually, if you purchase a roundtrip ticket you can only use one passport for travel both outbound and inbound - you can't use both under most circumstances - the options you have are to buy separate oneway tickets all the way to your destination or, in the case of a possible connection, by two round trip connections, one to the point of connection and the other to your final destination. Both options can elevate travel costs, and in the case of connecting flights with two separate tickets, you no longer have automatic coverage in the case of missing a connection due to flight delays.


so as you say then
Iam American/Canadian for example(example only) I use my US passport to fly from Canada to the usa and now to go home to Canada I now must use my CDN passport( new proposed law) so in your logic I now must buy a new one way plane ticket??
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From the article ...

“Air carriers are obligated by law to confirm that all persons seeking to travel to Canada carry both proof of citizenship and proof of identity. A valid Canadian passport satisfies these requirements for Canadian citizens, and is the only acceptable travel document for the purpose of air travel.

Currently, Canadian citizens with dual citizenships can use the passport of the other country to enter Canada by air if they can provide proofs of residency in Canada, such as a driver’s licence and Canadian citizenship card.
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