Pit bulls banned in Montreal

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Fancy wrote:Vice president of the Concordia Animal Rights Association Katherine Millington said although an outright breed ban is “an inappropriate, emotional, unscientific response,” she does not completely disagree with the imposed laws.

However, she said sources such as the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association and the American Veterinary Medical Association have reported that breed-specific legislation is not an effective plan of action for dealing with fatal dog attacks.

“The individuals responsible for this legislation refuse to listen to the experts in this field (which) makes me believe there is some ulterior motive for the ban,” said Millington.

South agrees with the idea that pit bulls should be neutered and spayed.


"Unscientific"?? On the contrary, vets are not experts in this field at all. In fact, the vets have a vested financial interest in seeing the pitbull carnage continue, and any vet who opposes the pitbull lobby, puts his practice and financial well being in jeopardy. The vets have lied for financial gain, and cannot be trusted. They have zero credibility. The experts that are relevant are the trauma surgeons who have to treat the victims of pitbull attacks.

"Omissions in the OMVQ Report Reveal Deliberate Distortions to Obscure Transparency; Veterinarians are “Stakeholders”

The La Presse investigation details the extent in which the OMVQ report distorted vital parts of recent medical studies, specifically four, where the authors concluded unanimously that pit bulls were the most common culprits of high severity injuries. These four medical studies are also included in our recent table of retrospective level 1 trauma center studies (2009 to 2016), which shows that all U.S. geographical regions are now reporting a higher prevalence of pit bull injuries.2

In Part II (Which Side Does the Science Support?) and Part III (What the Government Wasn’t Told), La Presse spells out these omissions in the OMVQ report by using the technique, “What the OMVQ Communicated” versus “What they didn’t mention” and supplying the actual text. Reading these parts should outrage readers, especially the omissions in the 2011 study (Bini et al.). These deliberate omissions -- literally as was translated -- left some of these studies “unrecognizable.”

It's little wonder the public and authorities don't trust the vets any longer.
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I saw this in another thread and thought it was perfect for this one:

It is our civic duty as human beings to do what we can reasonably do to keep others safe.


Isn't this what Montreal and all the other places are trying to do?
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alfred2 wrote:After reading the dog lovers posts, i have realized that they do not care that kids get killed and maimed , as long as their dogs are part of them. HOW SAD//////. I like dogs but in their place out in the country where they can enjoy life. :200:



A very ironic statement, considering the fact that the greatest number of serious attacks, especially fatal attacks, occur in remote rural areas here in Canada.
The biggest offenders in our country are sled dogs, Huskies and Malamutes. ( none of which BSL include as dangerous breeds )
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But isn't that the point of BSL, that various regions, cities, towns etc can create the one that is specific to their area. Therefore the remote areas that have more of problem with sled dog types can write their BSL to deal with those types of dogs.
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In just Montreal, in just the summer of 2015, 20 children were hospitalized for reconstructive surgery.
More than half of those kids were mauled by pitbulls. That's just one city and just 1 summer.

Hopefully pitbulls will soon be banned in the entire province of Quebec.
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Trying to downplay pitbull attacks in major urban centers by resorting to semi feral sled dogs in a remote indigenous community, with little access to top quality emergency medical trauma capability, makes no sense. Nothing but a diversionary tactic that isn't on point.

From the La Presse investigative report it is obvious that pitbulls are the major problem in our cities.

"Malboeuf found that 48% of the dog bites reported in the Montreal suburb of Hochelaga-Maisonneuve from 2011 to 2015 were by pit bulls, who also inflicted 60% of the reported bites in nine other Montreal suburbs in 2010; 69% of the reported bites in Rosemont in 2015; and 32% of the bites reported in Rivière-des-Prairies-Pointe-aux-Trembles, where Christiane Vadnais was killed.

After Malboeuf published her findings, Quebec College of Veterinary Surgeons president Joel Bergeron beat a quick retreat from some aspects of the veterinarians’ report on the CBC Montreal radio program Daybreak.
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As expected, the pitbull ban has been reinstated by the court of appeal, and is now in effect. I hope the SPCA appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, bc they will lose, and then the ban can be enacted throughout the entire province of Quebec, without any possibility of further appeal regarding the injunction. This will also give other jurisdictions the impetus to ban pitbulls. The Supreme Court has previously ruled bans on pitbulls are constitutional.

Public safety must take priority over pitbulls, and the court of appeal agrees.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... bull-bylaw
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1669 wrote:As expected, the pitbull ban has been reinstated by the court of appeal, and is now in effect. I hope the SPCA appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, bc they will lose, and then the ban can be enacted throughout the entire province of Quebec, without any possibility of further appeal regarding the injunction. This will also give other jurisdictions the impetus to ban pitbulls. The Supreme Court has previously ruled bans on pitbulls are constitutional.

Public safety must take priority over pitbulls, and the court of appeal agrees.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... bull-bylaw

we will see .there are things called elections and laws can be reversed :smt045
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What is extremely disappointing is that charges aren't going to be laid (no hope of prosecution) in the attack that started all this.
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maryjane48 wrote:we will see .there are things called elections and laws can be reversed :smt045


Not in Canada. Not all laws can be reversed by a mere election. Elected politicians cannot overrule constitutional rights to ban pitbulls.
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Fancy wrote:What is extremely disappointing is that charges aren't going to be laid (no hope of prosecution) in the attack that started all this.


All the more reason why public safety must come first, not somebodies choice of dog.
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maryjane48 wrote:we will see .there are things called elections and laws can be reversed :smt045


Not to mention the SPCA's contract with the city doesn't have to be renewed. I wouldn't with what I've learned about them with all of this.
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1669 wrote:All the more reason why public safety must come first, not somebodies choice of dog.

lol - hasn't stopped people from getting the dogs in Ontario. If the law doesn't have teeth, what's the point?
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ifwisheswerehorses wrote:Not to mention the SPCA's contract with the city doesn't have to be renewed. I wouldn't with what I've learned about them with all of this.

Doesn't sound like the SPCA will want to renew the contract - they have all the dogs at heart.
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Fancy wrote:Doesn't sound like the SPCA will want to renew the contract - they have all the dogs at heart.


No they do not care about "all dogs", they are nothing more than highly paid shills for the pitbull lobbies tactics of deliberately spreading misinformation via fake "studies", which are nothing more than an unscientific sham. Pitbulls kill more pets than all other dogs combined. Good riddance to the SPCA.

As the La Presse investigation revealed:

"Level 2: The researchers. “To produce studies, AFF bought a private research body in 2007. The acquisition was kept secret until the victims’ group Dogsbite discovered this during litigation. The National Canine Research Council (NCRC) was created by a veterinary technician, Karen Delise. Neither an academic researcher nor a veterinarian, she self proclaims as the ‘greatest national expert on deaths caused by dog bites,’” La Presse reports. NCRC co-authors and finances studies, like the ones cited by the OMVQ, which chiefly attempt to show pit bulls cannot be identified.

"Level 4: The political lobby. Best Friends Animal Society. Their senior legislative analyst, Ledy VanKavage, drafts state-level bills to eliminate local pit bull ordinances (state preemption laws) and is also a board member of AFF. VanKavage boasts on Best Friends’ corporate website that she commissioned an ex-economist from the tobacco industry, John Dunham, to create a fiscal calculator designed to advise governments on the cost of breed banning. Dunham’s sham BSL calculator, financed by the NCRC, over exaggerates these costs by nearly two orders of magnitude.

Level 5: The distributors. The animal care industry. “All the lobby studies are abundantly distributed by animal-based companies like shelters, breeders, trainers, etc. In Montreal, they are [distributed] by, amongst others, the SPCA, whose mission is to avoid euthanizing dogs and whose two most senior executives are themselves owners of pit bulls,” states La Presse. “On social media, pit bull owners deploy these studies relentlessly and accuse all their opponents of ignorance,” La Presse reports. More aggressive ones have even threatened the mayor of Quebec City with death."
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