Should Immigrants have their Citizen Revoked for Lying?

Should Citizenship be revoked if it was obtained by supplying false information?

Yes
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70%
No
7
23%
Sometimes
2
7%
 
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the truth
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but the parents lied, there fault,at least they should be sent back, rules are rules we all have to live by them
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I don't think it is fair to hold a person to an application their mother completed when they were 5 years old.
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icanthearyou
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*removed*
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Age is irrelevant. If the law has been enforced in the past then it needs to be enforced again. Kick her butte out of here.
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If I lied about my age to get into a bar should they have the right to throw me out when they find out?

Same principle.

This situation is a little different as it was her parents and not her and a long time has passed in between, but there definitely needs to be some repercussions.
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A quote from the article" There have been many similar cases of citizenship revocation based on false information provided by a parent."

A precedent has been set.
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The law as it stands is that if your parents lied, and you did not know they lied, you get your citizenship revoked because you came on false pretenses. My question is simply, is this fair or should it change?
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Glacier wrote:The law as it stands is that if your parents lied, and you did not know they lied, you get your citizenship revoked because you came on false pretenses. My question is simply, is this fair or should it change?


it's BS and should change
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the law is the law, blame the lieing parents not the law
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the truth wrote:the law is the law, blame the lieing parents not the law


laws can and do change regularly.
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Glacier wrote:The law as it stands is that if your parents lied, and you did not know they lied, you get your citizenship revoked because you came on false pretenses. My question is simply, is this fair or should it change?



If the family is entering under false pretenses then the family needs to be removed. You lie, you leave. Simple.
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gman313 wrote:laws can and do change regularly.



And I'm sure this one will change also, not because if it is fair or not, but because JT won't allow one of his members be revoked.
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yup, good chance
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http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/05/trudeau-may-change-law-to-protect-monsef

Trudeau may change law to protect Monsef
It now looks as if Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is willing to change Canada’s citizenship and immigration laws to protect one of his own.


On the campaign trail last September, Trudeau less-famously said that, “revocation of citizenship can and should happen in situations of becoming a Canadian citizen under false pretences.”

At the time, this statement contradicted Trudeau’s own position that Canadian citizenship is an absolute and inalienable right.

Now, that contradiction is catching up on him.
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