Conjugal visits between prisoners

[Rosemary1]

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/179 ... iller-well

What struck me about this is that two people in a correctional facility are allowed conjugal visits that result in a pregnancy. Poor unborn child. Something wrong with this .

[Nasturtium]

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/179105/Wishing-pregnant-killer-well

What struck me about this is that two people in a correctional facility are allowed conjugal visits that result in a pregnancy. Poor unborn child. Something wrong with this .

Rosemary1, I usually stay away from these headlines because they make me furious

You are absolutely right.

It's a *bleep* jail, not a social dating site (mad face should just come up instantly - seems I use the emicon every time I go to punch submit)

[Atomoa]

Something wrong with this .

Please present your arguments why people who have violated the law should not be able to have children.

Why stop there? How about the poor?

[Rosemary1]

... the answer should be obvious. The mother became pregnant while in jail for murder and the child will be borne while mother is still serving time in jail. The father is also in jail. Do you think that is a good start in life for a child?

Not talking about people who served their time and went on with their lives and have children.

[kgcayenne]

Incarceration should not come with the pleasures of normal life. This disgusting person killed and continues to have a sense of entitlement and disconnect with what she did, and now they've allowed two established miscreants to procreate! I can't fathom any good that will come of this.

Rights my *bleep*! What about Reena's rights?

[ferri]

B.C. killer Kelly Ellard's prison pregnancy spurs calls for policy review

http://vancouversun.com/news/national/c ... -in-prison

[bob vernon]

Imagine! Harper had a decade to clean up this mess, including a huge majority, and what did he do? And now I can't see a leftist like Trudeau doing anything about it. This is possibly a ploy to get softer treatment when her next parole hearing takes place and she will claim that the child needs mom out of jail.

[fvkasm2x]

Imagine! Harper had a decade to clean up this mess, including a huge majority, and what did he do? And now I can't see a leftist like Trudeau doing anything about it. This is possibly a ploy to get softer treatment when her next parole hearing takes place and she will claim that the child needs mom out of jail.

NOBODY could clean up this mess, because all it takes is a small group of whiners that cry outrage at any injustice (even if it's convicted sleazeballs getting the shaft) and suddenly everyone's hands are tied.

Look at the mess we are in worldwide. Everyone is offended all the time and you have to try to please everyone (or at least appease them). How can anyone get anything done?

[Nasturtium]

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/179 ... iller-well

A murderer - Homolka style

*bleep* Disgusting

[Atomoa]

Do you think that is a good start in life for a child?

How about a income cap. A child born into a family making less than 35,000 a year isn't such a good start in life either.

Incarceration should not come with the pleasures of normal life.

They're denied everything already. Mobility. Privacy. Communication. Choice. Life moreless.

What you're talking about is "they shouldn't be allowed to feel the warmth of human touch". The CIA does that in Gitmo. That's also known as torture.

Why not put blinders on their eyes so they can't see the sunset as well. Will that undo their crimes?

[Nasturtium]

Families where/are denied "human touch"

Where was humanity with those pleading for release from their muderer?

[Atomoa]

Families where/are denied "human touch"

Where was humanity with those pleading for release?

You misunderstand the justice system and it's role in our society.

Hint : you will not find the word revenge anywhere.

Let's follow this the whole way here.

Why not give prisoners medications that completely represses their human sexual desires? I was thinking about a joke that we should prevent them from masturbating as well - but why not go the chemical route? I mean, some might call that stripping them of their humanity but it makes us feel good right?

[Rosemary1]

This thread was about about children conceived in prison by parents in prison.

Those who want to discuss pros and cons of conjugal visits or 'right' to have children based on income, may want to start separate threads.

[Nasturtium]

you will not find the word revenge anywhere.

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC has an explanation regarding revenge

perhaps you should look it up

[Atomoa]

Atomoa, if you want to make this about the right to have children or not based on income I suggest you start another thread. This thread is clearly not about that.

I think I'm staying within the scope. You're suggesting that children born into criminality are disadvantaged and it shouldn't be allowed.

I've brought up that not all people commit the same types of crimes and not all people in jail are guilty either. Currently there is no real limit on human breeding (poor trailer trash nazis can have 25 kids) so I'm pointing out the social hypocrisy of such a stance against allowing criminals to have children. Why stop at just criminals. Also ban poor people, ugly people, people that could potentially have diseases.

Feel free to flag me.