Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby dirtrider » Mar 5th, 2017, 12:58 pm

rustled wrote:
dirtrider wrote:Well then it's not a Muslim problem then? is that what you're saying? Because I thought in this thread and other threads that 's who we were referencing. Now we are writing about immigrants in general. Weren't you writing about where the Muslim leaders were when all the atrocities were occurring? So are we going to disscuss anti feminists sentiments inherent in all refugees now?

This is misidentifying the problem, which does nothing to address it.

When refugees and immigrants are not arriving here with the same cultural expectations we've come to value, we must address this problem.

If Islam does not require sexism from the faithful, the leadership must say so.

If Islam does require sexism, the leadership must deal very clearly with the implications of these attitudes. Same goes for any religion, for any cultural authority.

Frankly, if you can see why the RCC had to accept some responsibility for what happened in our recent past, surely you must be able to see why other religions must take responsibility for what happens, too.


....and your point is that they're not? Yesterday, you didn't seem realize the Muslim leaders all over the world was condemning the terrorism and other heinous acts. But, hopefully you've seen that isn't true. I'm also not sure why you think the Muslim leaders aren't teaching these values in their Mosque, have you gone to one and listened in? It's the same basic message the Christians and the Jewish religion teach. Besides, I'm pretty sure, no matter what they preach, individuals and extremists will do whatever they want to do and this is a general comment for all religions and cultures....you know lead a water to horse but...... They can guide but ultimately the responsibility for one's actions are with the individual.....so I'm not sure why you are trying to set a higher standard for Islamic leaders than you would for other religion and cultures.

...and btw, the RCC took some responsibility because they got caught and incurred bad publicity. They kept it hush hush for years after it was known what the priests were doing....so pleease.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby dirtrider » Mar 5th, 2017, 1:10 pm

rustled wrote:
rustled wrote:
...and yeah mostly it's positive experience. But in any religion or culture, there is bound to be people that uses this "cover" to commit these crimes. What it boils down to is not about religion or even culture. It's about a "bad" seed.....and that happens in any religion or culture. What I'm saying is this is what is happening in Europe, it's a social economic problem that is the root cause of the "other " problems you are seeing, a manifestation of the core problem. I'm not sure why you can't connect these dots?

I can assure you, I have connected those dots, too. This problem isn't an "either or", and there's no reason to ignore or minimize any of the contributing factors.

If our goal is to effectively help people adapt successfully, all of these factors must be addressed.

Respectfully, dirtrider, it seems to me you're going to great lengths to avoid holding Islam to the same level of accountability you would expect of the RCC. I expect the same level of accountability from all religions and all cultural leaders.


Respectfully rustled, you don't seem to be listening, I keeping saying it's not a religious problem, Islamic, Christianity or Judaism. IMO, it's a social-economic problem....these people are in a different land surrounded by another homogeneous society with no jobs, no money, no hope, lonely, no support as far as cultural integration etc. When these situations happen ANYWHERE in the world, you will get these types of aggression and negative actions. It's about being poor and being on welfare. These types of problems are in Canada too.....and I can assure you it's not about Islam either.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby rustled » Mar 5th, 2017, 1:12 pm

dirtrider wrote:....and your point is that they're not? Yesterday, you didn't seem realize the Muslim leaders all over the world was condemning the terrorism and other heinous acts. But, hopefully you've seen that isn't true. I'm also not sure why you think the Muslim leaders aren't teaching these values in their Mosque, have you gone to one and listened in? It's the same basic message the Christians and the Jewish religion teach. Besides, I'm pretty sure, no matter what they preach, individuals and extremists will do whatever they want to do and this is a general comment for all religions and cultures....you know lead a water to horse but...... They can guide but ultimately the responsibility for one's actions are with the individual.....so I'm not sure why you are trying to set a higher standard for Islamic leaders than you would for other religion and cultures.

The RCC took some responsibility because they got caught and incurred bad publicity. They kept it hush hush for years after it was known what the priest were doing....so pleease.

OMG. Look, I've said more than once I was fully aware of the leaders' denunciation of terrorism. I've said if you found evidence they're taking the same stance against sexism, I'd be pleased to see it.

But it's not up to me to convince you to see what you don't want to see, in my posts or elsewhere. If you want so badly to believe this is all about Islam for me, that I'm the one who can only see through a narrow lens, well, I'll have leave you to it.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby dirtrider » Mar 5th, 2017, 1:22 pm

Well that's my opinion of your posts, they definitely have a Islamic feel to them, especially your earlier post. The later posts seems to be more about different immigrants and refugees.....so I'm thinking we should just agree to disagree with our opinions.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby bold » Mar 5th, 2017, 4:05 pm

Google or duckduckdckgo.com Coudenhove-Kalergi plan

This is very relevant to this thread in the grand scheme of things. With an open mind, willingness to understand and learn to stay ahead of the many moves that are being played on westerners.

Also, wars in the middle east have not occurred through random act of events, traps were set, situations were created, one of which to further the agenda to create the justifications for going to war in these countries in the 80/90's, this was by no means an un-planned accident. This refugee crises has been planned for the western world and taken to the bank so to speak many moons ago. 9/11 2800 people were sacrificed that day, we wont go into who was the true brain child of that event, thermite present, why biggest gold stash under building 7 disappeared magically, auditable documents happened to be destroyed at the Pentagon as to why trillions of dollars were missing which was announced September 10th . Whether you like it or not 9/11 WAS a tool used to further ramp up and push the war agenda in the middle east further as well as intruding on western freedoms for their own 'protection'. BUSH jnr Tavistock was the puppet at the time to help convince the masses we were at war.

All of this is relevant to this thread, these events helped play a few parts leading us to why we are here today with the refugee crises in Europe, why a Syrian in Canada charged with sexual assault, why European police are dealing with un imaginable surge of harassment, sexual assaults, violence that goes un-documented so as to not offend the offenders, appease the do-gooders as well as hiding the reality of the situation from the host until shtf.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby the truth » Mar 6th, 2017, 11:19 am

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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby rustled » Mar 6th, 2017, 5:36 pm

(Mods, this may seem off-topic in this thread, but it's an example of why we need to speak plainly about the root causes of sexual assault. All of them.)

It's terribly unfortunate to see how many posters here dismiss anyone who expects communities, cultures and religions to address all of the roots of their problems square-on as some kind of racist, Islamophobic, etc.

Here's an example of a cultural group/community choosing to address root causes of violence:
http://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/ ... n-violence

They are looking at all factors, not just the ones it's customary or convenient to look at. IMO, this is much tougher than spotlighting some factors while ignoring the rest. Kudos.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby the truth » Mar 1st, 2018, 2:58 pm

SHOCKER- :200: - MOST MEDIA NOT INTERTESTED IN STORY https://www.facebook.com/YEGcrime/posts ... 1380417881
JT must of told the media to back off http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4500811
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby ochema62 » Mar 4th, 2018, 11:44 pm

If convicted deport him.
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby the truth » Mar 4th, 2018, 11:54 pm

i say hang him
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby the truth » Mar 30th, 2018, 12:43 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4502539 I GUESS everyone is lying except the accused wt :cuss: must be one of jt boys way of saying thank you canada
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby the truth » Apr 24th, 2018, 7:44 am

https://www.therebel.media/edmonton_mal ... pion_day_6 like the article says the media has moved on from this story--why--- because they were told to because the guy is a refugee ?
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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

Postby Fancy » Apr 24th, 2018, 7:52 am

It was a packed courtroom Tuesday for closing arguments in the case of a man accused of sexually assaulting six teenage girls at the West Edmonton Mall water park last year.


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Re: Syrian refugee charged with six counts of sexual assault

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http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/c ... sault-case

verdict expected july 6th-- lets see what one of jt's refugees gets for time, if any or next to none i expect
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