Trudeau - Weeding through Priorities

[Atomoa]

The Toronto Police had to fly out and do it themselves. Vancouver RCMP would not carry out the arrests, they said they would only escort the Toronto police to Emery's shops.

Source? All of the articles I've read have clearly stated that the VPD raided the locations in Vancouver.

I never said the VPD weren't there. It was a Toronto city police operation. I actually thought it was the RCMP that assisted and not the VPD.

There are about a hundred marijuana stores on the island and lower mainland. They busted Marc's stores and all the ones up and down the street were untouched. Drive to Vancouver - buy a pound over the counter. All you need is ID.

This is the inconsistency and the injustice I am speaking about. This is the stupid needless mess Trudeau has created by "insisting/sorta of/double standard not applying to him that the law be applied and followed until he says so, mostly and depending on regionality, even though it is a bullpoop law, because he just wants to get re elected" national policy of marijuana.

It could be decriminalized and we'd have about 50-75 thousand less people in the justice system to deal with. Feel free to argue how they were menaces to society before the law is changed or that the police couldnt be using their time for better purposes.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news ... ronto-jail

A dozen Vancouver police officers, acting for Toronto police, raided Marc Emery’s Cannabis Culture headquarters on West Hastings Street on Thursday morning, while police raids were also carried out in Toronto and Hamilton.

Pugash said search warrants were executed Thursday at five Cannabis Culture stores in Toronto, one in Hamilton and one in Vancouver. Four warrants were executed at private residences in Toronto, the Hamilton area, and in Vancouver.

Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson’s staff said neither the mayor nor Vancouver police would be commenting as the operation was led by Toronto police.

“Vancouver police assisted us,” Pugash said. “It’s a TPS (Toronto Police Service) project.”

[jimmy4321]

It's illegal, sure it's inconsistent but like i said before .
He attracted national media on opening a bunch of shops acting though they were opening Timmys lol
It's as though the pair were daring the law to come down on them.
Better have your in order if your gonna do that.

[Atomoa]

It's as though the pair were daring the law to come down on them.

If the law is unjust and unfair, then I'm not sure why you are supporting "the law" in this case.

Rosa Parks "dared" the law to come down on her. I think Marc Emery is a total prick but I applaud his poke-in-the-face methods. Someone has to highlight the the hypocrisy and stand up for what is right. He's done time for his cause - not many people can say that.

[jimmy4321]

The Prince doesn't want to be left out and the government set the wheels in motion with it's legalization announcement. All about the money.
Come on, don't even compare with Rosa Parks.

Maybe in the distant future this illegal activity will make a cute back story for a brand but till then they're criminals.

[FreeRights]

I never said the VPD weren't there. It was a Toronto city police operation. I actually thought it was the RCMP that assisted and not the VPD.

You stated that the VPD merely escorted TPS members to the shops. I haven't found a single report that suggests that there were even members of the TPS on site during the raids, which articles confirm were conducted by the VPD. Articles, including the one that you quoted from.

The Toronto Police had to fly out and do it themselves. Vancouver RCMP would not carry out the arrests, they said they would only escort the Toronto police to Emery's shops.

Where did the VPD say this? It's true that it's TPS investigation - meaning, they're leading the investigation into it - but that doesn't mean that they are actively carrying out the raids.

Anyway, I literally live near downtown Vancouver (False Creek), so I'm well familiar with how these pot shops - dispensaries - operate. For the most part, I actually support their existence - marijuana should absolutely be made available both medically and recreationally. Further, the Federal Government has given us a date where all the necessary domestic and international laws and agreements will be amended to enable us to do that.

Even still, the City of Vancouver made it possible for these shops to exist within the framework of the city's business laws. Many chose not to pursue business licenses, so many of these shops have been given the opportunity to go legit and chose not to. Though the VPD rarely do raid these shops on a regular basis, it would be well within their right to do so.

[Atomoa]

You stated that the VPD merely escorted TPS members to the shops. I haven't found a single report that suggests that there were even members of the TPS on site during the raids, which articles confirm were conducted by the VPD. Articles, including the one that you quoted from.

Where did the VPD say this? It's true that it's TPS investigation - meaning, they're leading the investigation into it - but that doesn't mean that they are actively carrying out the raids.

Anyway, I literally live near downtown Vancouver (False Creek), so I'm well familiar with how these pot shops - dispensaries - operate. For the most part, I actually support their existence - marijuana should absolutely be made available both medically and recreationally. Further, the Federal Government has given us a date where all the necessary domestic and international laws and agreements will be amended to enable us to do that.

Even still, the City of Vancouver made it possible for these shops to exist within the framework of the city's business laws. Many chose not to pursue business licenses, so many of these shops have been given the opportunity to go legit and chose not to. Though the VPD rarely do raid these shops on a regular basis, it would be well within their right to do so.

There are videos of the shop managers talking to the VPD and the VPD telling them to open up shop again in 3 to 4 hours once the busts went away. Dana Larsen had a first hand account that there were plainclothes TPS officers inside collecting evidence while VPD kept watch outside. It was a Toronto police effort and the Vancouver mayor and Police chief made it clear it WASN'T THEM and it was a Toronto effort - probably so they didnt have to deal with all the emails and hate. I feel like you are almost being a grammar nazi on me here. Might as well hammer on me that I confused RCMP and the VPD rather than harp on me for what you're harping on me for.

Let me settle it for you - are the VPD or Vancouver RCMP shutting down all the shops? No. They just did it to Marc's shops because of a Toronto police effort. That's all I was showing. Inconsistency within the application of the law in our country - aside from our pot smoking PM who is cool with getting away with crimes but not when other people do.

We're not talking about hunting times or snow tires times on mountain passes. People who are "breaking the law/jumping the gun" now are not hurting anyone. It's the Government that is hurting them by enforcing a BS law.

This is all about monopoly protection and Trudeau's reelection hopes - and about 50-75,000 Canadians are going to have to pay the piper for Trudeau's wants in life.

[techrtr]

Something on the news this morning about a study showing the dangers of pot smoking and driving. Stoned driving fatalities especially among young people way up in states that legalized pot. Hope Trudeau has some plan to make sure that enforcement is possible, and that kids realize that smoking pot and driving is no different than drinking and driving.

Meanwhile, our illustrious leader is in New York for the "Women in the World Conference." I wonder how many other world leaders are taking time away from dealing with important issues to be there.

[jimmy4321]

Those legal states are now pot tourists destinations which throws numbers of impaired driving off, the problem with having scattered legal states.
I agree though people should NEVER drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol - i'm a fan of zero tolerance

[What_the]

Haven't read every post, been working And haven't had time.
Here s my thought.
While I wouldn't want my offspring to partake,I won't judge others for doing so. One may get home from work and have a beer,or glass of wine or two. The truth is, one is imbibing in recreational drugs. To argue other wise is to be ignorant of science and fact.
Drink alcohol? Using recreational drugs. There is no distinction. Argue as one might, One would be against every shred of medical and scientific data available.

[Jflem1983]

This is true except in eyes of the law . Also some forms of intoxication seem to be encouraged like fentanyl. While others like Marijuana are clearly frowned upon by the masses . Just check your local list of criminals in your area . I'm a criminal for life I got caught with a bit of pot . I'm OK with that .

[Jflem1983]

Honestly I knew at 15 I was a criminal for life . I woke up every morning and had my breakfast . That alone made me a dangerous criminal . This made it much easier to not give a hoot about other laws

[What_the]

This is true except in eyes of the law . Also some forms of intoxication seem to be encouraged like fentanyl. While others like Marijuana are clearly frowned upon by the masses . Just check your local list of criminals in your area . I'm a criminal for life I got caught with a bit of pot . I'm OK with that .

Cool.
Here's my thing about the eye of the law. Or specifically, the word Iof the law.
Is it the written word? Or the spirit in which codified is expressed?

[Jflem1983]

Well that's a tuff one . In Alberta u do time for a few ounces of pot . In bc u go free for fentanyl and a gun . Is it the written law . Well no that seems to be consistent nation wide . It is the judges that are different

[FreeRights]

This is true except in eyes of the law . Also some forms of intoxication seem to be encouraged like fentanyl. While others like Marijuana are clearly frowned upon by the masses . Just check your local list of criminals in your area . I'm a criminal for life I got caught with a bit of pot . I'm OK with that .

Okay, you had me up until an example you provided was fentanyl. In what way is fentanyl use being encouraged?

[Smurf]

Jflem1983 wrote:

I woke up every morning and had my breakfast . That alone made me a dangerous criminal . This made it much easier to not give a hoot about other laws

Can you explain how waking up and having breakfast made you a dangerous criminal. Was you breakfast illegal. Remember no matter what, it was you that made yourself a criminal. You only become a criminal by breaking the law and no on else can do that for you.