This is how canada still treats firstnations

[maryjane48]

On a Monday afternoon in June 2015, Angela Cardinal was led into an Edmonton courtroom handcuffed and in leg shackles. Metallic rattling echoed as a sheriff escorted the 28-year-old to the witness stand.

She was not the accused, but rather a victim — called to testify at a preliminary hearing after she was savagely attacked and sexually assaulted by a notorious sexual predator.

'You're going back to remand tonight so that we can get you back here tomorrow.'- Provincial court Judge Raymond Bodnarek


"I'm the victim and look at me, I'm in shackles," she told provincial court Judge Raymond Bodnarek.


"Shackles," she spat. "Aren't you supposed to commit a crime to go to jail?"


Cardinal was forced to spend a total of five nights in the Edmonton Remand Centre during her testimony.

Cardinal was forced to spend a total of five nights in the Edmonton Remand Centre during her testimony.


"I've never seen a case like this," she said. "I mean, how many people did she come into contact with and nobody stood up and said, 'Guys I think this is wrong. I think we've made a mistake.'

Ganley said she has already formed a special committee to look at the case to review policies, with an eye to making what she calls "aggressive changes." As well, criminal lawyer Roberta Campbell, outgoing president of the Law Society of Manitoba, will head an independent investigation into the treatment of Cardinal.

Cardinal, a Cree woman from Maskwacis, about 100 kilometres south of Edmonton, moved to the city when she was 14.

On a June afternoon in 2014, she was tired and hungry, with nowhere to call home. She convinced a tenant to let her inside a central Edmonton apartment building. She had no idea that Lance Blanchard, a career criminal, lived on the second floor.

Curled up in the stairwell next to a baseboard heater, Cardinal sang herself to sleep with This Little Light of Mine. But she awoke to a knife at her throat. Holding it was a six-foot-seven-inch, 260-pound convicted sexual predator.


"He started stabbing me," Cardinal said. "He said he was going to make me ugly and stick me in a closet and keep me. He started banging my head off the ground."



"I felt disgusting," Cardinal told court. "I wanted to get away as fast as possible, but I couldn't. I was praying I would die before anything else happened."


It took 27 stitches to repair the wound to her hand. Her body was covered with cuts. One eye was black and blue. Her neck was bruised from where Blanchard tried to choke her.


On the first day she was called to testify, she kept falling asleep. She had trouble focusing and answering questions.



At the request of Crown prosecutor Patricia Innes, Bodnarek ordered that Cardinal spend the weekend at the Edmonton Remand Centre. Both were concerned about her physical and mental state.

Bodnarek determined he had authority to detain Cardinal under Section 545(1)(b) of the Criminal Code, which applies to witnesses who refuse to answer questions.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... 33?cmp=rss



so what happened here is a sexual assualt victim instead of being taken to medical place is instead sent to jail as a hostile witness.

i would love to see links to stories on white rape victims being sent to jail . but i will be waiting forever because there are none .

[bob vernon]

If the judge allowed her out into the community, do you think that she'd be back in court the next morning? She has addiction issues with both drugs and alcohol. What if she bought a bad package of fentanil and died. The bleeding hearts would be all over that, too. Hey, she's now happy because she gets to play a victim card.

[Ken7]

If the judge allowed her out into the community, do you think that she'd be back in court the next morning? She has addiction issues with both drugs and alcohol. What if she bought a bad package of fentanil and died. The bleeding hearts would be all over that, too. Hey, she's now happy because she gets to play a victim card.

I'm still stuck on what this thread has to do with First nations, obviously someone had issues with attending court when Subpoenaed which as far as I know has no race in the definition.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1809017/woman ... -at-trial/

It has nothing to do with race, I've seen others non-native held in cells just to ensure court appearance as victim and witness. Nothing newsworthy here!

[maryjane48]

If the judge allowed her out into the community, do you think that she'd be back in court the next morning? She has addiction issues with both drugs and alcohol. What if she bought a bad package of fentanil and died. The bleeding hearts would be all over that, too. Hey, she's now happy because she gets to play a victim card.

shes dead and was sexually assualted . she needed medical treatment not jail

[maryjane48]

your full of it ken. since when are white rape victims held in jail ? never. i know 3 rape victims in calgary all assualted by same person. all white. none were held in jail .


heres some facts


According to data from the 2004 General Social Survey on Victimization (GSS), 40% of Aboriginal[1]Canadians reported having been a victim of crime in the year leading up to the survey compared to 28% of non-Aboriginal Canadians. With respect to violent crime,[2] Aboriginal people were three times more likely to have been victimized compared to non-Aboriginal people (319 incidents versus 101 incidents per 1,000 population) (Brzozowski et al. 2006).


when i googled how often rape victims in canada were held in a jail zero came up . so ken did you get pleasure from putting first nation rape victims in cell instead of a hospital ? you admit to doing it so tell us how you determined rape victims needed to be in jail instead of a hospital . and since tried cases are public knowledge can you give us links to where it is recommended by police chiefs and procedure to put rape vics in jail. .

[GenesisGT]

If the judge allowed her out into the community, do you think that she'd be back in court the next morning? She has addiction issues with both drugs and alcohol. What if she bought a bad package of fentanil and died. The bleeding hearts would be all over that, too. Hey, she's now happy because she gets to play a victim card.

shes dead and was sexually assualted . she needed medical treatment not jail

You do realize the court case was one year after the incident.

One year later, on June 5, 2015, Cardinal had to face her attacker again, at his preliminary hearing.

[Ken7]

your full of it ken. since when are white rape victims held in jail ? never. i know 3 rape victims in calgary all assualted by same person. all white. none were held in jail .


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Your post just shows your lack of knowledge of the Criminal Code.

Sorry I can't help you with that. Fail to attend court and there are consequences.


End of story.

[driveangry]

It has nothing to do with race, I've seen others non-native held in cells just to ensure court appearance as victim and witness. Nothing newsworthy here!

Has everything to do with race,,,,, here's a quote from the Alberta Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley,, "Question of race in sex assault victim's jailing ' keeps me up at night '."

Or this one one,," 'She was the victim. We should have treated her as the victim.'

[maryjane48]

*removed*

theres going to be a inqury so we will see how often rape vics get tossed in jail .

google didnt have one hit on it

[maryjane48]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/calg ... -1.4146796


here is another case of a first nations kid that needs medical help not jail

[Ken7]

It has nothing to do with race, I've seen others non-native held in cells just to ensure court appearance as victim and witness. Nothing newsworthy here!

Has everything to do with race,,,,, here's a quote from the Alberta Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley,, "Question of race in sex assault victim's jailing ' keeps me up at night '."

Or this one one,," 'She was the victim. We should have treated her as the victim.'

OK, you and M put your private messages on and communicate. Then once you two have come to a common consensus tell us, the ones who do not understand your views,

I will then tell you by fact of law what the end result would be. Now don't try and put words in my mouth as M has in the last attempt to slam me, because I won't entertain her games.

I will say, we have a victim who was jailed. Why do you think she was held in jail? What will happen if she does not attend court? Do you two want the animal who assaulted or raped her walks FREE.

Yes, free, if he walks free what would the two of you say about the system?? I will hold my thoughts of what I feel you would say as I've seen past posts on a number of sensitive issues by you.

Get together and tell the rest of us what would be best for this case considering all angles. Include your views on the interest of Justice and on how to prosecute a accused when a victim fails to attend court.

I'll be waiting to hear...

[maryjane48]

dna evidence is conclusive enough . but you first you bragged about it. lets see the cases where white rape victims are jailed before testifieing in court . do you put them next to robert picton for extra laughs ?

[driveangry]

I'll be waiting to hear...

You have a real chip on your shoulder, don't you !!


i don't care what M says or thinks.

I gave you a direct quote from the Alberta Justice Minister,,,, take it up with her.

[Ken7]

I'll be waiting to hear...

You have a real chip on your shoulder, don't you !!


i don't care what M says or thinks.

I gave you a direct quote from the Alberta Justice Minister,,,, take it up with her.

No not a chip, you don't have a clue how I feel.

When challenged on fact of law. I stand up. As a retired Police Officer, I likely know the law more clearly than most here.
I also get tired of people bashing Police who when they do their job and are scrutinized just as they are in this case.

Do you think the Police were directed by Crown Counsel to locate and arrest this witness?

So therefore I am wondering, what is the solution in this case. Possibly I am missing something.

What seems to be your issue? Do you have a solution to this case?

IF they did not hold the victim, would the prosecution be able to move forth? IF the animal as I call it was not tried, what would your comments be to that?

What would the Justice system be then, I will suspect you will say a failure. Well let this guy walk and he might add numbers to missing indigenous woman which I would hate to see.

Once again the police are darned if they do and damned if they don't!

[driveangry]

1. There was no evidence given that she would be a " flight risk ".

2. Crown doesn't need a witness if they have enough evidence.

3. A " hostile " witness can do more damage to the crown's case and come across unreliable, so why create a "hostile" witness ??

4. Why not a hotel room with a female officer baby sitting. Clean her up, feed her, help her look respectable for court. Or is that just for the "white" witnesses ??

Why wasn't she given legal aid ? Where was victim services ??

WHERE WAS HER SUPPORT ???