Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby Ka-El » Jan 29th, 2018, 1:39 pm

bob vernon wrote: But if they re-offend or kill serially, then death is the best solution.

... or life in a small cage without any chance of parole (actually less expensive to taxpayers to pay for his housing than pay for all the automatic appeals that would be triggered by a death sentence).

bob vernon wrote: I recently read about a guy who murdered somebody and he was on mandatory release after serving part of his sentence.

Mandatory release? People doing federal time can apply for parole after serving a third of their sentence. That would require they have a release plan and report regularly to a parole officer until their warrant expiry date. Offenders not wanting to deal with parole can be released after serving two thirds of their sentence (early release) if they have performed well while incarcerated. Offenders who are uncooperative while incarcerated can be held until their warrant expiry (original sentence). That is the only situation where release is mandatory, and it requires the sentence be completed in its entirety.
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby the truth » Jan 29th, 2018, 1:47 pm

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bob vernon wrote: But if they re-offend or kill serially, then death is the best solution.

... or life in a small cage without any chance of parole (actually less expensive to taxpayers to pay for his housing than pay for all the automatic appeals that would be triggered by a death sentence).

bob vernon wrote: I recently read about a guy who murdered somebody and he was on mandatory release after serving part of his sentence.

Mandatory release? People doing federal time can apply for parole after serving a third of their sentence. That would require they have a release plan and report regularly to a parole officer until their warrant expiry date. Offenders not wanting to deal with parole can be released after serving two thirds of their sentence (early release) if they have performed well while incarcerated. Offenders who are uncooperative while incarcerated can be held until their warrant expiry (original sentence). That is the only situation where release is mandatory, and it requires the sentence be completed in its entirety.


you say, --if they have preformed well ---- [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif] preformed well in jail you mean, how hard can that be , he look at me i was in jail and behaved so they have to let me out early what a f :cuss: joke
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby Ka-El » Jan 29th, 2018, 1:55 pm

the truth wrote: preformed well in jail you mean, how hard can that be , ...

I guess you could go try and see for yourself. I don't know what's so hard about it. You're told when to sleep, when to get up, when to eat and when to go to the bathroom. I'm sure you could handle that. Maybe you would even be happy not to have to make any of those hard decisions for yourself anymore. Hey, you're right - it sounds like a freaking vacation.
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby the truth » Jan 29th, 2018, 2:02 pm

cool so these losers do not even have to think for themselves ,no wonder they go back over and over again , they have zero responsibilities just the way they like it
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby my5cents » Jan 29th, 2018, 2:19 pm

bob vernon wrote:Absolutely. I do believe that Correction Canada should be allowed, and given budget, to try and CORRECT people entering their system. But if they re-offend or kill serially, then death is the best solution. I recently read about a guy who murdered somebody and he was on mandatory release after serving part of his sentence.

And, of course, I believe that the lash should be used on multiple repeat offenders of crimes less than murder.


Whatever he got it wasn't "life" there is no mandatory release for life.

All other terms, once 2/3'd of the sentence is served the prisoner is subject to mandatory release.

I love reading in the media..... "Joe Blow was sentence to 10 years for....." and people are outrage he only got 10, well after they subtract his pre trial custody time and then apply the mandatory release, Joe won't serve anywhere near even the 10 they are angered about.

Hey there are rights in Canada ! Too bad those rights apply to criminals and not the honest hard working tax paying citizens.
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby Ka-El » Jan 29th, 2018, 2:22 pm

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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby Ka-El » Jan 29th, 2018, 2:40 pm

my5cents wrote: Whatever he got it wasn't "life" there is no mandatory release for life.

All other terms, once 2/3'd of the sentence is served the prisoner is subject to mandatory release.

Statutory release


Statutory release is a mandatory release by law. It is not parole and is not a decision of the Parole Board of Canada. By law, most offenders (except those serving a life or indeterminate sentence) must be released by the Correctional Service of Canada (CSC) with supervision after serving 2/3's of their sentence, if parole has not already been granted.


Offenders on SR are required to follow standard conditions which include reporting to a parole officer, remaining within geographic boundaries, and obeying the law and keeping the peace. The Parole Board can also impose special conditions specific to the offender. In some instances offenders on SR are required to reside in a halfway house or community correctional centre operated by CSC.


Statutory release aims to provide offenders structure and support before their sentence expires to improve the chances of their successful reintegration into the community. Offenders can be returned to custody if they violate their conditions of release or are believed to present an undue risk to the public.


CSC can refer SR cases to the Parole Board for detention until the end of the sentence. The Board may, in specific cases where the legal criteria are met, order these offenders to be detained in prison until the end of their sentence.

So, although it is termed mandatory release and the processes are there to monitor and supervise, there are circumstances where an offender can be deemed as an undue risk to the public. I had understood that included being confined in prison, but have known of offenders who were released and placed on a section 810.2 Recognizance to remain under supervision even after their warrant expiry date. You are absolutely correct that a life sentence has no warrant expiry date; only the possibility of parole after a minimum amount of years as determined by a Judge at sentencing.
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Re: Reinstate Capital Punishment:

Postby oneh2obabe » Jan 29th, 2018, 7:33 pm

Queen K wrote:https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-217437-4-.htm#217437

Three skeletons found in his planters? He's going to claim "criminal insanity" or "I had no idea they were there!"

Why are we so accomodating? Burden of proof can be difficult I am aware. Especially in this case. Maybe there really was a stranger coming on to his property and burying dead men in his planters and he knew nothing about it. That would get him off from being an accessory to covering a crime, right?

It wasn't his property. He did gardening and landscaping at a number of properties.

Investigators said they have seized more than 12 planters from properties where McArthur did landscaping and that they plan to excavate two areas, but did not say where.

Smith and Fraser were first introduced to McArthur, a landscaper, by his sister. He needed a space to store some equipment and they made an arrangement: he could use their garage if he’d mow their lawn when they were away. Over the years he did much more than cut the grass.

“He took this simple arrangement and did more and more and more for us,” Fraser told the Star earlier this month. “All of our pots around the house were suddenly filled with beautiful flowers.”

McArthur had brought three or four enormous planters, roughly a metre high and as wide as the inside of tractor tire, to the house two or three years ago, Fraser said.

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