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Trump or Trudeau

Who would you rather be Prime Minister

Justin Trudeau
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40%
Donald Trump
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Total votes : 63

Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby sobrohusfat » Dec 24th, 2017, 9:52 am

HorganIsMyHero wrote:It's really sad that people feel the need to defend this clown.


*Oyoyoy* It's been explained 3 different ways that no one feels the need to defend [HIM] - just tired of BS





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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 24th, 2017, 10:28 am

HorganIsMyHero wrote:
It's really sad that people feel the need to defend this clown.


I feel the same way about Justin Trudeau. Why are people defending this clown?
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby The Green Barbarian » Dec 24th, 2017, 10:30 am

Queen K wrote:Okay, who just apologized to the LGBQT community for evil doings of the government? Was it a. JT or b. DT? Go from there.


You are right, when it comes to empty, meaningless and totally vacuous gestures designed to appeal to those who put value on empty, meaningless and vacuous gestures because it gives said people a warm feeling in their little liberal tummies, no one can compete with JT. He's the king - including using his poor son as a prop on Halloween. There is no one who comes close.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Queen K » Dec 24th, 2017, 11:27 am

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Queen K wrote:Okay, who just apologized to the LGBQT community for evil doings of the government? Was it a. JT or b. DT? Go from there.


You are right, when it comes to empty, meaningless and totally vacuous gestures designed to appeal to those who put value on empty, meaningless and vacuous gestures because it gives said people a warm feeling in their little liberal tummies, no one can compete with JT. He's the king - including using his poor son as a prop on Halloween. There is no one who comes close.


My little liberal tummie got a warmie from Donald...oh NEVER. But JT as flawed as he is, and yes, there is a hard line faction here to remind us all the time how flawed, did the right thing to at least acknowledge wrongs. Acknowledging wrongs is not empty, meaningless or vacuous. That is cynicism at it's finest. When people apologize here on Castanet, maybe for great wrongs, are they to be so immediately dismissed? Or will it depend on which side of the political lineage it comes from?

Disagree, Trudeau's apology had meaning.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby HorganIsMyHero » Dec 24th, 2017, 11:34 am

Queen K wrote:Disagree, Trudeau's apology had meaning.


qft, the apology was long overdue. People forget (or just don't care) homosexuality was illegal not that long ago. But to a lot of Canadians the apology meant a heck of a lot.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 24th, 2017, 11:38 am

Well there u go. I thought it was meaningless drivel. But it apparently does make some people feel good. So despite my feelings i guess JT probably did a good thing to say sorry.

Why is crying appoligies the only thing of note .

Trump is working every day to make America great again :D
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Ka-El » Dec 24th, 2017, 11:43 am

Jflem1983 wrote: Trump is working every day to make America great again :D

... and doing such a great job at it :D

If only he could be our Prime Minister
We could be great again too! :smt045
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby fvkasm2x » Dec 24th, 2017, 12:42 pm

sobrohusfat wrote:
HorganIsMyHero wrote:It's really sad that people feel the need to defend this clown.


*Oyoyoy* It's been explained 3 different ways that no one feels the need to defend [HIM] - just tired of BS



I have literally explained the same thing repeatedly and in multiple ways and yet 3 users can't comprehend English at all. Makes me feel like I am an advanced ESL teacher in a class with Japanese kindergarten students.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby JLives » Dec 24th, 2017, 12:49 pm

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ra ... ore-713531
In 1994, Trump went to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped a 13-year-old girl that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.

The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.


During a court deposition, Ivana Trump—Donald's first wife and mother to Eric, Donald Jr. and Ivanka—accused the president of raping her in 1989. The private account was described in former Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III’s 1993 book, Lost Tycoon. It details the alleged "violent assault," in which Trump pulled out fistfuls of his ex-wife’s hair after receiving a painful operation on his scalp.


A former Trump business associate, Jill Harth, claimed in a 1997 lawsuit the New York real estate mogul “attempted rape” and groped her without her consent on various occasions. In the suit, Harth described a violent encounter at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, in which Trump allegedly threw her against the wall of one of his children’s bedrooms before lifting up her dress.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Omnitheo » Dec 24th, 2017, 1:33 pm

Seems people here like to pick and choose when rape is rape.
People have been awfully specific about what is rape as opposed to sexual assault.
Meanwhile these same people comment in a thread about Muslim immigrants in Germany “raping” people, and suddenly any alleged groping or otherwise inappropriate behaviour is rape.

And all this because I said “trump is a rapist”
Ok, fine, Trump is a self admitted sexual assaulter with multiple allegations of rape from many different people over several years.

Happy? Now how is he more fit for office than Trudeau? And don’t just parrot his bs about how he’s “getting things done”. Show me your sources, show me the facts.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby fvkasm2x » Dec 24th, 2017, 3:24 pm

Omnitheo wrote:And all this because I said “trump is a rapist”
Ok, fine, Trump is a self admitted sexual assaulter with multiple allegations of rape from many different people over several years.

Happy? Now how is he more fit for office than Trudeau? And don’t just parrot his bs about how he’s “getting things done”. Show me your sources, show me the facts.


Perfectly acceptable. 100% nothing wrong with that. Stick to facts and I will agree with you.

Although personally, I wouldn't call 3 people "many" and he qualified his "admission" with "when you're famous, they let you." That suggests he was referring to the concept of people being awestruck with rich, powerful and famous people.

Jason Momoa for example said at a Comic Con that he liked playing Drago on Game of Thrones:

“But as far as sci-fi and fantasy, I love that genre because there are so many things you can do, like rip someone’s tongue out of their throat and get away with it and rape beautiful women,” he said. Fellow cast members, including Lena Headey, looked embarrassed while the crowd laughed.


And then in the comment section you see the MAIN upvoted comment with likes is from a woman saying "He is so hot, I'd let him rape me."

Comments like that only reinforce the notion that there are different rules for tall, sexy men or the rich/powerful (nobody is calling Trump sexy).

As for your question... you've posted a different question in this post. Being fit for office is vastly different than what you've asked in the poll or elsewhere in the thread.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby HorganIsMyHero » Dec 24th, 2017, 3:33 pm

LOL at bringing Jason Momoa's hot *bleep* into this. If people are asking for him to bang them then that's consensual. No one asked to be sexually molested by Trump, so non consensual. Big difference....

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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Jlabute » Dec 25th, 2017, 8:51 am

Good things done by Trump, while Trudeau kills everyone with higher taxes and debt.

Jobs and the economy

Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.

Free Trade

Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Protecting life

In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.
Helping veterans

Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
Created a VA hotline.
Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
Worked to increase defense spending.
Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.
He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.
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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Ka-El » Dec 25th, 2017, 10:53 am

Comparing the ‘Trump economy’ to the ‘Obama economy’

The Trump administration likes to brag about the economy. A lot. During a Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham on Nov. 2, Trump boasted about the economic gains during his first year in office, calling it “one of the greatest [economic revivals] in the history of our country.” He added: “I’m not getting enough credit for it.” It’s not just Trump who brags ….

Since February, after Trump took office, the economy has gained nearly 1.7 million jobs, according to preliminary data on nonfarm payroll for November. But once again, the job gains are part of a multiyear trend that started in 2010 while Obama was still in office ….

The stock market

Just one month into taking office, Trump bragged about the stock market. During a news conference on Feb. 2, he claimed, “the stock market has hit record numbers.” We’ve pointed out before that this talking point is a flip-flop for Trump, who dismissed stock-market performance under Obama as a “big, fat bubble” ready to pop. (The U.S. stock market had been rising steadily since March 2009, shortly after Obama took office.) …

The Pinocchio Test

Sanders suggests that its outlandish to give Obama credit for the current economy, claiming that “we can all agree the economy is better under Trump.” The problem is, Trump’s economy owes largely to trends started in the Obama era. By almost every economic measure, the upward trends Sanders and Trump cite began while Obama was still in office.

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Re: Trump or Trudeau

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 25th, 2017, 11:11 am

Obama was and still is widely hated. No one wants him back.
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