Bombardier vs Boeing

Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby The Green Barbarian » Oct 1st, 2017, 3:16 pm

maryjane48 wrote:and yet you would support a american company doing same thing ?


Who is saying that? Why can't you just answer the question?

or the oil sands ?


What?????
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Catsumi » Oct 1st, 2017, 7:46 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
maryjane48 wrote:and yet you would support a american company doing same thing ?


Who is saying that? Why can't you just answer the question?

or the oil sands ?


What?????



The ills of the world have been visited upon us by big government that repeatedly involves itself in what should be private companies. No good ever comes of it. As we have seen over and over again, once a government is involved either financially or in policy making for what should be private enterprise, you can be assured you are on the road to a major clusterduck. Bombardier and ICBC are just cases to highlight my point. There are many more as you well know. (Salmon, orcas, damns...the promises made all turn to lies. Damned lies that then turn into whitewashing, handwringing and coverups. How many examples do you need before you realize that "before an election, they are at your feet. After elected, at your throat" (M.Twain).

I know this will make no difference to many out there, but believe me, the more requests you make of government, the more delighted they are. Empire building through creating huge, cumbersome bureaucracies is something they are only TOO willing to participate in, with your blessing. Too late you realize that the tail now wags the dog. You just keep eating it up, all of you who love big government. You give up your freedoms for a mess of potage.

My opinion applies in Canada, USA, or any other country (not that we have any choice what goes on beyond our borders).

As I have said many times before, it doesn't matter what political party of the moment is at our jugulars and wallets, they serve themselves and not the electorate.

If they did, they would have cut Bombardier loose a helluva long time ago.
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Dizzy1 » Oct 16th, 2017, 7:17 pm

Nice try Boeing, but the competition isn't going anywhere ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bombard ... -1.4357567

... bye, bye tariffs.
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby lesliepaul » Oct 16th, 2017, 9:24 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:Nice try Boeing, but the competition isn't going anywhere ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bombard ... -1.4357567

... bye, bye tariffs.


Told numerous sceptics months ago when Boeing started this B.S. about Bombardier..................."Airbus is sitting in the wings watching Boeing go about being a petulant child..........something is going to happen between Airbus and Bombardier".
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby techrtr » Oct 17th, 2017, 8:54 am

Holy smokes, Bombardier made a deal with Airbus so some of their planes will be built in the US, effectively circumventing the tariffs being imposed. Take that Boeing. Only thing I'm wondering is how does this affect jobs in Canada?

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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby oneh2obabe » Oct 17th, 2017, 9:31 am

The CSeries headquarters and main assembly line will remain in the Montreal area, but a second production line for the 100- to 150-seat plane will be set up at Airbus's facility in Alabama to meet demand from U.S. customers and avoid duties.

Airbus has promised to maintain 100 per cent of those employed Mirabel, Que., and to keep production at the Mirabel plant, where production will be ramped up far beyond its current rate.


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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Retrosnap » Oct 17th, 2017, 9:42 am

techrtr wrote:Holy smokes, Bombardier made a deal with Airbus so some of their planes will be built in the US, effectively circumventing the tariffs being imposed. Take that Boeing. Only thing I'm wondering is how does this affect jobs in Canada?


This isn't just a deal...Bombardier sold 50.01% of itself to Airbus. Airbus has majority control of the company, but assumes none of the debt. How long before Canadian taxpayers send money to France to convince them to keep R&D and/or manufacturing in Canada? No longer a subsidy, but a bribe.

Under the agreement, Airbus said it will take a 50.01-per-cent interest in the C Series limited partnership for no cash consideration as the C Series becomes part of Airbus's aircraft product lineup. In exchange, it will offer Bombardier's 100- to 150-seat plane its global procurement, sales and marketing and customer support expertise. Bombardier's stake will be 31 per cent and Quebec will own about 19 per cent when the deal is finalized

No cash is changing hands in the deal and the C Series partnership assumes no debt as part of the transaction, the partners said. All of Bombardier's current C Series final assembly in Mirabel, Que., will remain and Airbus has pledged to set up additional factory space for the C Series at an existing Airbus facility in Mobile, Ala.


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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Catsumi » Oct 17th, 2017, 6:02 pm

So, the fallout reveals that Bombardier is still fastened firmly to Canada's financial teat .
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby maryjane48 » Oct 17th, 2017, 6:05 pm

Catsumi wrote:So, the fallout reveals that Bombardier is still fastened firmly to Canada's financial teat .

and you still support a american company over a canadian one. did you move to fla ?
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Catsumi » Oct 17th, 2017, 9:00 pm

maryjane48 wrote:
Catsumi wrote:So, the fallout reveals that Bombardier is still fastened firmly to Canada's financial teat .

and you still support a american company over a canadian one. did you move to fla ?



What did I ever say in support of ANY company? Move to fla. ????

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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Catsumi » Oct 18th, 2017, 6:55 pm

Catsumi wrote:REMOVED.



Mods. The last post was my LAST post but had to hit "submit" button several times before it registered. You removed a duplicate not a "verboten" post.
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Even Steven » Oct 29th, 2017, 12:58 pm

And now Bombardier is selling its Q400 program to China.

Which basically limits production in Canada to business jets.

Goodbye jobs, goodbye Canadian-made industry. Another descend into world of part-time service jobs while shipping jobs overseas.

http://www.fliegerfaust.com/q400-sold-t ... 91746.html

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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Omnitheo » Oct 29th, 2017, 1:05 pm

I seriously hope Westjet and Air Canada never purchase another Boeing airliner.
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby Dizzy1 » Oct 29th, 2017, 5:47 pm

Omnitheo wrote:I seriously hope Westjet and Air Canada never purchase another Boeing airliner.

I seriously hope they purchase the aircraft that best suits their needs as a business and not base their purchases on emotional responses from people who don't understand the dynamics of the airline industry and the differences in operational performance between a B737 and A320.
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Re: Bombardier vs Boeing

Postby GordonH » Oct 29th, 2017, 6:28 pm

Omnitheo wrote:I seriously hope Westjet and Air Canada never purchase another Boeing airliner.

Dizzy1 wrote:I seriously hope they purchase the aircraft that best suits their needs as a business and not base their purchases on emotional responses from people who don't understand the dynamics of the airline industry and the differences in operational performance between a B737 and A320.


It all boils down to getting biggest bang for best price.... & who will get it to them on or before time.

Added: most likely who's willing to grease the right palms, most likely helps.
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