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Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 8th, 2017, 3:31 pm
by maryjane48
Earlier this year, I interviewed two dozen Canadian oilsands workers who all want to retrain and build careers in the renewables industry. They are affiliated with a new workers’ movement, Iron & Earth, which exists to help them achieve this transition

But the transition comes at a cost. Energy sector recruiters advise that they’re likely to take a pay cut of up to 50 per cent.



https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/ ... bles/89025

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 8th, 2017, 7:34 pm
by vegas1500
maryjane48 wrote:Earlier this year, I interviewed two dozen Canadian oilsands workers who all want to retrain and build careers in the renewables industry. They are affiliated with a new workers’ movement, Iron & Earth, which exists to help them achieve this transition

But the transition comes at a cost. Energy sector recruiters advise that they’re likely to take a pay cut of up to 50 per cent.



https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/ ... bles/89025


24 out of how many thousands? The reason people work in the oilsands is for the career, money and the ability to commute from all over Canada. Sounds like a transition that just won't happen.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 8th, 2017, 7:54 pm
by Dizzy1
Let's see ...

An operational site has a good 1500 - 2000 full time workers at any given time, plus another compliment of anywhere between 500-2000 for small projects. Construction phases easily employ 5000-10000 workers for years. The one site I'm at is still in the construction phase with a workforce of about 12000 people at present. Another site is in operations has currently has about 3500 workers on site in operations and projects - they'll be ramping up an extra 3000 workers next year for two new large projects. Imperial is getting the green light in the first quarter next year to go ahead with a new construction site, employing thousands more - plus the go ahead to expand the Kearl site next year - thousands of more jobs. Teck is getting the final go ahead this year for their massive project, employing well over 10000 employees. Suncor is building two more sites south of Fort Mac in the coming years, thousands of more jobs - and on and on it goes. But 24 people were interviewed LOL.

How many jobs has the green sector produced to date? How many jobs are in the works at present?

As for the article itself. Production costs at most sites are now down to about $25 a barrel, Imperial and Suncor are expecting to hit costs at $20 a barrel by next year.

As for rotations. There are some who work 21/7, others 32/7, others 10/10, others 7/7 and more than I can list - but the standard work rotation is 14/7 at most construction sites and most operations are usually a 14/14, 10/10 or 7/7 but I'm sure there are others.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 9th, 2017, 5:19 pm
by maryjane48
Green jobs out performed oil jobs in states by large margin . Samething will happen here :130: .

Plus in sure then tarsand workers would like to be able to look in a,mirror and like the person they see one day :smt045

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 9th, 2017, 7:17 pm
by vegas1500
maryjane48 wrote:Green jobs out performed oil jobs in states by large margin . Samething will happen here :130: .

Plus in sure then tarsand workers would like to be able to look in a,mirror and like the person they see one day :smt045


Why would an oilsands worker not like what they see in the mirror? I think they would feel pretty damn proud to make a good living, work half a year and spend the other half with their family, build a great retirement package that will allow them great freedom when they retire at a young age....sounds like a win win. Once again, I ask if you have ever been up there...u keep speaking on something you have no first hand knowledge of.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 7:26 am
by The Green Barbarian
maryjane48 wrote:
Plus in sure then tarsand workers would like to be able to look in a,mirror and like the person they see one day :smt045


Not sure what tarsand workers are, but oil sands workers should hold their heads high and be proud. And one of the reasons to be proud is that there are a lot of really stupid uber-sanctimonious leftists out there who think that they shouldn't be proud. That would be a giant source of pride for me.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 7:27 am
by The Green Barbarian
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PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 8:46 am
by Retrosnap
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PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 1:45 pm
by The Green Barbarian
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Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 7:55 pm
by christopher
maryjane48 wrote:Green jobs out performed oil jobs in states by large margin . Samething will happen here :130: .

Plus in sure then tarsand workers would like to be able to look in a,mirror and like the person they see one day :smt045


The only thing anyone working in the oilsands looks at is the pay check and they like them selfs fine.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 9:00 pm
by Dizzy1
maryjane48 wrote:Green jobs out performed oil jobs in states by large margin . Samething will happen here :130: .

And banana's are yellow and strawberries red.

Not sure what you mean by "out perform" - even in the link you provided, the author said its a 50% pay cut - thats not really out performing. One day, in the future, there may be more jobs in that sector, but thats a very long way's away - and there will still be many, many, many jobs here - now and in the future - so no worries there. As for construction jobs - a construction job is a construction job, it doesn't matter if they're building a windmill or an extraction plant.


maryjane48 wrote:Plus in sure then tarsand workers would like to be able to look in a,mirror and like the person they see one day :smt045

So you're suggesting that a hard working individual, making personal sacrifices, working away from their families so they can provide them with a decent life, food, shelter, education - has a reason to be ashamed of themselves? Better than all those welfare bums you support :up:

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 10th, 2017, 11:23 pm
by The Green Barbarian
I'd still like an explanation as to what qualifies as a "green job".

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 11th, 2017, 3:59 am
by Queen K
Ya that's a problem. It used to be simple to know when a job was "green" until one does the mental breakdown on all the physical components needed just to have that job.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 11th, 2017, 12:13 pm
by vegas1500
The Green Barbarian wrote:I'd still like an explanation as to what qualifies as a "green job".


Collecting a government check, hunt and fish whenever you want.

Re: Oilsand workers want to switch to green jobs

PostPosted: Nov 11th, 2017, 1:04 pm
by alanjh595
1st. What is a "Green Job"?

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2nd. What number of current Site-C employees would have the acquired education to be able to apply for these jobs?

3rd. How many of these job positions are there currently in BC/Canada?

How many years of university education would it take a truck driver/loader operator/crusher operator/welder/and all the support personnel to be even marginally able to make the short list of potential candidates for these jobs?

I want some FACTS/poll to support that opinion.