Liberals take another in byelections

[jimmy4321]

Over half way through 1st term ,

SO when do the wheels fall off the cart???

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#213763
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/12/11 ... a-homepage

[seewood]

Believe they took 3 of 4 by elections. (who in my opinion is spending way too much and royally screwing up military procurement and military pensions for wounded soldiers)
Is this a reflection of Trudeau's policies or a rejection of Scheer?

[Ka-El]

Is this a reflection of Trudeau's policies or a rejection of Scheer?

Andy Scheer - he's just not ready

[Queen K]

I thought the anti-Federal Liberal party people would be in thread barfing their guts out, ranting, raving and/or frothing at the mouth at the idea that democracy once again has installed federal Liberals into Parliament.

Where are they all anyways?

This surely to God isn't a local news source right?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier ... -1.4443695

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The Liberals held on to their two seats in Ontario, and Newfoundland and Labrador, while the Conservatives retained their seat in Saskatchewan.

Across the four ridings, the Conservatives were the only party to increase their overall vote share. But the loss of a second seat is another knock against party leader Andrew Scheer.

Things might have turned out better for him had the night not been so disappointing for the NDP's newly minted leader, Jagmeet Singh. NDP support dropped in all four ridings, dashing any hopes the Conservatives might have had that Singh could peel voters away from the Liberals, particularly in suburban Toronto and the Greater Vancouver region.

Liberals winning where it counts
Not since 1949 have the Liberals represented the part of the country now occupied by the riding of South Surrey–White Rock. Since becoming leader in 2013, Trudeau has made a net gain of four seats in byelections. The last Liberal leader to accomplish that was Mackenzie King.

The Liberals picked up six points in South Surrey–White Rock, taking 47.5 per cent of the vote. With the Conservatives dropping 1.9 points, that was more than enough to overcome the 2.5-point margin the Conservatives won by in 2015.

Much of the victory can be chalked up to Liberal candidate Gordie Hogg, who was a B.C. Liberal MLA for 20 years. He was also both a former provincial cabinet minister and mayor of White Rock.

His win follows the blueprint the Liberals established in their victory in the Quebec riding of Lac-Saint-Jean in October, when local Mayor Richard Hébert was able to steal away a formerly Conservative seat. But good candidates only run for parties they think they have a chance of winning, and right now the Liberals are recruiting the better candidates.

[seewood]

But good candidates only run for parties they think they have a chance of winning, and right now the Liberals are recruiting the better candidates.

I agree, none of that sexist NDP nonsense where certain ridings have to have a candidate with XX chromosomes.

[Cactusflower]

The LPC can thank Gordie Hogg for that win. If they had run anyone else, they would have lost again. For once the electorate (even though only 38% of them actually bothered to show up) voted for the candidate, not the party.

[Glacier]

Gordie Hogg is a right-leaning liberal who was elected as a BC Liberal several times, so it's only natural that he's win that riding, especially when running against a weak conservative who lost in a neighbouring riding in 2015.

I will say this though, it looks like Canadians are not ready for a Sikh leader, and thus the NDP voters will probably migrate to the Liberals next election, giving Trudeau an even larger victory than last time.

[bob vernon]

The reason: Andrew Scheer. Focus groups see images of him and his insecurity flows over the audience. And an insecure politician is also viewed as a politician with something to hide. Like an unspoken agenda. The Conservative party had to tell him to take down his website the day after he was chosen leader. His views on women in the workforce and abortion are right outta the 1950s.

Trudeau's gonna be running against this guy and an NDP in disarray with the Greens stealing some of their support? With the memory of divisive Steve still too fresh? And a booming economy? Cakewalk.

[maryjane48]

Jt could grt sex change and still win against. Andy bunker

[Glacier]

The reason: Andrew Scheer. Focus groups see images of him and his insecurity flows over the audience. And an insecure politician is also viewed as a politician with something to hide. Like an unspoken agenda. The Conservative party had to tell him to take down his website the day after he was chosen leader. His views on women in the workforce and abortion are right outta the 1950s.

Trudeau's gonna be running against this guy and an NDP in disarray with the Greens stealing some of their support? With the memory of divisive Steve still too fresh? And a booming economy? Cakewalk.

In other words, the Conservatives would have been better off going with the Trump-like character like O'Leary or Leitch.

[maryjane48]

No .the cons be better of going with non bigoted leader

[Ka-El]

In other words, the Conservatives would have been better off going with the Trump-like character like O'Leary or Leitch.

It might not have mattered. Trudeau has certainly disappointed in many ways, but the economy is growing and people are finding jobs. If this is still the case next election people are not going to be so concerned that his wife once starred in videos or that he was once caught not wearing a poppy on Halloween. They are going to remember that despite all the talk by Conservatives of being the superior managers of our economy, most people are far better off overall under this Liberal government than they were under Harper. And despite the presumption of the so-called populists that they speak for “ordinary people”, most people I know have no interest in living in some ethnostate and value the Canadian ideals of diversity and inclusion. They simply want to live in peace and mutual prosperity with their neighbors - whatever their race, creed or religion.

[bob vernon]

The Conservatives got what they deserved. In the first round of ballots, Maxime Bernier was in front. He stayed in front with very little growth through all the following rounds. Western Canadian Cons just couldn't find their way clear to voting for a guy from Quebec. Round after round of balloting and they finally settled on Scheer. The bigots got what they deserved. And it continues. Ya think those Quebec Cons who joined the party to vote for Bernier are going to remain as Cons in the next election? Western rump is an appropriate term.

[The Green Barbarian]

The Conservatives got what they deserved. In the first round of ballots, Maxime Bernier was in front. He stayed in front with very little growth through all the following rounds. Western Canadian Cons just couldn't find their way clear to voting for a guy from Quebec. Round after round of balloting and they finally settled on Scheer. The bigots got what they deserved. And it continues. Ya think those Quebec Cons who joined the party to vote for Bernier are going to remain as Cons in the next election? Western rump is an appropriate term.

So then when Quebec deserts the NDP because of their bigoted views about a Sikh leader, what will the NDP be? Just a few losers isolated in pockets of stupidity across Canada.

[Veovis]

So then when Quebec deserts the NDP because of their bigoted views about a Sikh leader, what will the NDP be? Just a few losers isolated in pockets of stupidity across Canada.

It seems highly unlikely any of that goes to the Cons however. Quebec has never been nice to anyone other than the party they are least enraged at.....and this is most likely going to be an addition to Liberal seats, not for performance, just for current hate levels