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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Chyren » Feb 3rd, 2018, 9:06 am

Osoyoos_Familyof4 wrote:What do people think about a return to the old fashioned sobriety tests they used to do on the roadside? (Walk the line, say the alphabet backwards, pupil reaction, fingertip to nose etc.)

Is there a reason why these tests fell out of favour? Was it the breathalyzer being so easy and quick? Does/is the physical roadside test not accurate?


How do you figure they've fallen out of favor? The "old fashioned" tests are court recognized and science recognized and are still used today. They are also standardized and aren't the "alphabet" or other such weird tests. Look it up.

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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Ka-El » Feb 3rd, 2018, 9:26 am

It can be done with an adequate roadside test ...

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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby rustled » Feb 3rd, 2018, 10:21 am

Those roadside tests were the best party games.
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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Osoyoos_Familyof4 » Feb 3rd, 2018, 11:42 am

I think you may have misunderstood my post.

I actually approve of good roadside testing that isn't based on chemistry. Since I don't have skin in this game really (not a drug user, and not in law enforcement, nor do I even have friends or relatives in law enforcement) I was just wondering why it "seems" like we don't use this method anymore. When I watch a show like "Cops" or whatever they seem to use the "old fashioned" test only to use the findings in order to justify a breathalyzer? Since I have no experience with the law, I realize that I am just stating what it looks like, not necessarily what it is?

If these roadside physical tests are good, I'm not sure what the hullabaloo is about? Why can't we just administer these physical roadside tests and take people off the road who aren't fit to drive no matter what they ingested?
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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Ka-El » Feb 3rd, 2018, 11:48 am

Osoyoos_Familyof4 wrote: Why can't we just administer these physical roadside tests and take people off the road who aren't fit to drive no matter what they ingested?

Possibly a better indicator of impairment - due to anything that might have been ingested.
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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Smurf » Feb 3rd, 2018, 6:41 pm

I really don't care how they do it as long as they get impaired drivers off the road, preferably for a long time.
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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 4th, 2018, 6:37 am

I don't know, after 3 hrs driving i'm not walking right for a little bit.
I think people don't like roadside physical type test cause they don't have faith in one persons judgement that could :cuss: up your life royally. Although this sort of judgement happens all the time by police in their work, driving is an activity most people can't avoid.
I'm sure there are some who are excellent at giving these test and coming up with an accurate accessment but i doubt many. I'm betting a quarter of okanagan seniors would fail one of these and drive fine.

Oh and would you want this lady driving? Guessing meth or something similar , Sad way
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Re: Almost 4 out of 10 Pot Users drive...

Postby Chyren » Feb 5th, 2018, 4:59 am

The tests are not balance tests. They are considered "divided attention task" tests. They get a person to do a bunch of stuff at once and see if you can. The tests take into account medical issues and are based on totality of a situation. Balance is just one of the issues.

https://duijusticelink.aaa.com/issues/d ... ssibility/

Great read here.

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