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Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Jflem1983 » Jan 1st, 2018, 11:40 am

I dont think we could. It would disturb the spirit bear or something. It would be endless protest. Totally insane
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 1st, 2018, 11:46 am

And the railway would cost a lot more to build without all the free Chinese labor.

While we ride the rail in comfort we should remember those that gave their lives for it.

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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby jimmy4321 » Jan 1st, 2018, 11:48 am

Seems to take about 10 yrs to get any portion of anything built, from surveying to yellow lines Lol

Be more interesting if we could do it again, knowing what we know now what we do differently.

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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Jflem1983 » Jan 1st, 2018, 11:51 am

It would be like Standing rock all over again. Environmental nuts would make a huge mess. It would take the army to remove their camps. Would drag on for years.
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Ka-El » Jan 1st, 2018, 11:59 am

Jflem1983 wrote: I dont think we could. It would disturb the spirit bear or something. It would be endless protest.

I think you are right. The concept of “nation-building” inspired Canada at that time, and the importance of joining the coasts was exciting. Now we have everyone looking out for their own self-interests (or interests of lobbyists) and placing them ahead of the collective well-being of Canada. If not the Enbridge pipeline, we could have piped oil to the east and refined it here in Canada, yet we have people who think we should shut down the oilsands despite the fact we and the world will be dependent on oil and its by-products for many, many years (decades) to come yet. The oil companies have detailed plans to bring the land back to better than before condition, but we have folk who would rather see the oil dangerously transported by rail. We need a leader with some vision who will bring this nation together again.
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby bob vernon » Jan 1st, 2018, 3:37 pm

The railway was built despite the fact that the Conservative Party was heavily involved in the corruption of the Pacific Scandal during the construction. While the names have changed, the same corruption would happen today, with either the Liberals or Conservatives filling their pockets.

And about those humanitarian oil companies and their "detailed plans to bring the land back to better than before condition"...... do you really expect us to believe that? C'mon man! These are the same folks who try to spread some bales of straw over the oil saturated land and tell us that it's all been cleaned up.
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:59 pm

No.
The endless reasons why would crash the Net.

Not to mention that the existing ones are a couple decades behind
in maintenance and upgrades.

Who's gonna do the work, the latest generation ? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby jimmy4321 » Jan 2nd, 2018, 6:21 am

When i see old buildings in NY/Chicago or bridges etc it's not so much the buildings that impress me but i'm mostly in awe as to how the *bleep* they get anything done and without the modern equipment and technology today and at that they still stand and are used. The 10 yrs i mentioned earlier for a section of Hwy doesn't even consider the time to generate the political will. :swear:

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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 2nd, 2018, 7:51 am

jimmy4321 wrote:When i see old buildings in NY/Chicago or bridges etc it's not so much the buildings that impress me but i'm mostly in awe as to how the *bleep* they get anything done and without the modern equipment and technology today and at that they still stand and are used. The 10 yrs i mentioned earlier for a section of Hwy doesn't even consider the time to generate the political will. :swear:


I have the same thoughts when I look at the big trestle on the kettle valley railway. How the heck did they do that without our modern machines.

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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Jflem1983 » Jan 2nd, 2018, 8:01 am

They had skills and iron wills .

Our grand parents and great grand parents were a great generation. Only took 70 years to completely ruin everything they did
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 2nd, 2018, 10:32 am

Jflem1983 wrote:They had skills and iron wills .


Ahem, don't forget there was also no such thing as civil rights.

An expendable work force where workers could be thrown into situations where they
may not come back out from.

New immigrants, Prisoners, Interm Camp "residents" and Hobo's
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Jflem1983 » Jan 2nd, 2018, 10:38 am

dirtybiker wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:They had skills and iron wills .


Ahem, don't forget there was also no such thing as civil rights.

An expendable work force where workers could be thrown into situations where they
may not come back out from.

New immigrants, Prisoners, Interm Camp "residents" and Hobo's


Ah the good old days .
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby Queen K » Jan 2nd, 2018, 11:02 am

Good thread and thoughts Jflem. I also agree that today if the hwys of today had to be built, there wouldn't be any.

And some Chinese labourers were lined up and shot down, rather than pay them the nothing they earned.
Canada is so full of ugly history.

Oh, and do we really want the homeless and addicts of today building infrastructures? :200: Um, no.
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Re: Could we build the railway or trans Canada hwy today

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 2nd, 2018, 11:08 am

Queen K wrote:Oh, and do we really want the homeless and addicts of today building infrastructures? :200: Um, no.


Who else you gonna entice under them boulders with the 'charge'
or dangle from a trestle.

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