Did the Conservatives pick a Dud?

[The Green Barbarian]

- Hate speech is not free speech, even if you are allowed to say it, people get hurt when people say it.

I agree. People also get hurt when you deliberately lie to protect our current airhead PM.

[justincase]

LET'S GET THE FACTS CORRECT, RHETORIC ASIDE
- Omar never killed anyone, in fact, evidence shows that it would have been impossible for Omar to have thrown the IED that killed Chris Speer

That's not what the military judge ruled in the case.

No, the judge ruled there was no torture that caused him to confess. What there is though is pictures and an eyewitness that shows Omar Khadr was under a pile of debris of the collapsed roof. The other theory was Omar Khadr threw a grenade backward over his shoulder...lol. The events are probably a friendly fire incident.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-shows-khadr-couldn-t-have-thrown-grenade-in-firefight-lawyer-1.749998

[Glacier]

No, the judge ruled there was no torture that caused him to confess.

But, but, everyone justifying the 10 million dollar payout including the PM say that it's because he was tortured that he got the money! Now you're saying that he wasn't?

[The Green Barbarian]

But, but, everyone justifying the 10 million dollar payout including the PM say that it's because he was tortured that he got the money! Now you're saying that he wasn't?

No no no Glacier. He WAS tortured, and he didn't do anything. Omar didn't kill anybody, and he was just in Afghanistan, minding his own business, not harming anyone. All of those IED's he built while on vacation with the Taliban (and was recorded building) never hurt anyone. They were just for fun. So to sum up - pure as the driven snow, not his fault, didn't kill anybody, then he was tortured (apparently), and then brought back to Canada, and then JT paid him through a back door so the US Medic's widow couldn't collect on the court order for the murder of her husband (not by Khadr, but someone else, of course, because Omar is the victim here, not the guy who actually died).

[justincase]

No no no Glacier. He WAS tortured, and he didn't do anything. Omar didn't kill anybody, and he was just in Afghanistan, minding his own business, not harming anyone. All of those IED's he built while on vacation with the Taliban (and was recorded building) never hurt anyone. They were just for fun. So to sum up - pure as the driven snow, not his fault, didn't kill anybody, then he was tortured (apparently), and then brought back to Canada, and then JT paid him through a back door so the US Medic's widow couldn't collect on the court order for the murder of her husband (not by Khadr, but someone else, of course, because Omar is the victim here, not the guy who actually died).[/quote]

Omar was 15 years old taken there by his father.

[The Green Barbarian]

Omar was 15 years old taken there by his father.

and he went there to just have some fun...kill a few Canadians...see Kabul in the springtime...

[Glacier]

Omar was 15 years old taken there by his father.

And 15 year olds were sent overseas by their fathers in the Canadian army some 80 years ago.

[justincase]

And 15 year olds were sent overseas by their fathers in the Canadian army some 80 years ago.

Now the world agreed to call them child soldiers.

[The Green Barbarian]

Now the world agreed to call them child soldiers.

and pay them all $10.5 million of taxpayer cash, apparently.

[Catsumi]

Omar was 15 years old taken there by his father.

and he went there to just have some fun...kill a few Canadians...see Kabul in the springtime...

The youtube video makes me gag with revulsion. Uncharitably I wished the ordnance that Khadr & Co. were assembling would blow up, then and there.

The endpiece is the kicker: widows of soldiers KIA get $250,000 as settlement payment, Khadr got 10.5 million, 42 times the going rate for inhabitant of a bodybag.

Can anyone in their right mind justify this travesty?

[justincase]

"The deprivation of [Khadr's] right to liberty and security of the person is not in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice," the court ruled.

"The interrogation of a youth detained without access to counsel, to elicit statements about serious criminal charges while knowing that the youth had been subjected to sleep deprivation and while knowing that the fruits of the interrogations would be shared with the prosecutors, offends the most basic Canadian standards about the treatment of detained youth suspects."

Ottawa set to pay $10.5M to Omar Khadr, government source says
Ottawa drops appeal seeking to overturn Khadr's bail
Whatever Khadr did or did not do as a teenager on a battlefield in Afghanistan in July 2002, whether he deserves to be described as a "terrorist" or a "child soldier," he was and is a Canadian citizen with rights. And, as determined by no less than the Supreme Court of Canada, the Canadian government was complicit in the violation of those rights.

It is for that reason, presumably, that the Canadian government is now preparing to apologize and pay him $10.5 million, according to reports.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/omar-khadr-settlement-analysis-aaron-wherry-1.4189472

[Glacier]

That is absolutely unbelievable that interrogating someone without their lawyer in the know is worth 10 million dollars! Meanwhile, First Nations who were stripped from their homes and sexually abused only get less than a tenth of that!

[The Green Barbarian]

That is absolutely unbelievable that interrogating someone without their lawyer in the know is worth 10 million dollars! Meanwhile, First Nations who were stripped from their homes and sexually abused only get less than a tenth of that!

it's because they didn't kill a US Medic. That's worth $10.4 million.

[ninetyninepct]

Yes, Mr. Dimples is a dud. He isn't annoying enough or aggressive enough to get Trudeau's goat.

Trudeau will likely get in at the next election and it will ALL be on those who picked Scheer. Four more years of Trudeau will damage Canada so badly we will likely never recover. We will be a country totally submitting to M-103, virtually destroying all personal freedoms, and have "politicians" who will pander to environmental jihadists like Tides Canada and Dogwood who want to shut Canada down.

For those Canadians who are Seniors, enjoy your "old stock" memories. They are memories the generations who follow will never have.

[CapitalB]

All m-103 destroys is your freedom to discriminate against people for religious reasons. The text of the bill while using islamophobia as an example specifically goes after religious discrimination in general.

As far as I know discrimination is not a human right or value protected by the canadian charter.

Get over it.