Did the Conservatives pick a Dud?

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Glacier wrote:Who is Skippy?


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Ah, I still didn't recognize the face, but I just Googled. Pierre Poilievre, whose most infamous for opposing the carbon tax and antisemitism. I can see why some people wouldn't like him for those things and others given how controversial they are.
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hobbyguy wrote:It is constructive in my opinion to do so. It also takes Scheer away from the peanut chucking that he and Skippy have been engaging in, and and toward actually doing something to support the interests of average Canadians.


It is a good thing, but see how fast the Liberal insult without facts team came out swinging? Hate is the campaign plan just like with Harper, tell lies and spread hate and hope pretty but vapid wins again.

I think this was a positive action, and actually appreciate seeing someone at least attempting to be a leader and act like a leader, not a tourist with a title and endless working vacations.
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Glacier wrote:Ah, I still didn't recognize the face, but I just Googled. Pierre Poilievre, whose most infamous for opposing the carbon tax and antisemitism. I can see why some people wouldn't like him for those things and others given how controversial they are.


Oh sorry - yeah I was going to write his name too but just forgot.
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Michelle Rempel is quite good. She would have been a good choice for sure!

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The Green Barbarian wrote:LOL - someone has to hold PM Vacuous to account for blatantly lying about the Indian government playing a role in the whole Atwal debacle. If the Liberals weren't a bunch of liars, there wouldn't be a need to "peanut chuck".


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Glacier wrote:Ah, I still didn't recognize the face, but I just Googled. Pierre Poilievre, whose most infamous for opposing the carbon tax and antisemitism. I can see why some people wouldn't like him for those things and others given how controversial they are.


Skippy was first and foremost a lackey for Harper's dictatorial style. His peanut chucking ways led him as low as the infamous "tar baby" comment.

Skippy was also the point person for the infamously anti-democratic "Fair Elections Act" and while doing so distinguished himself as full of it, especially in his disingenuous downward hitting attacks on the Chief Electoral Officer.

Skippy is also a permanent pol, having never attempted nor desired to do anything but be a pol. I dislike that in any politician. Especially one who gets caught for "knowingly circumvent the prohibition on contributions to a registered party by ineligible contributors."

Skippy is a gamer of the system. Never had a real job in his life. Has no competency outside of being a yap flapper. I don't care what party that sort of politician is in, I dislike them. Look at the mess we are in in BC with a bunch of permanent pols pretending they have a clue how to actually accomplish anything. Doesn't matter if they are Liberals, Conservatives, Bloc, NDP or Green, I see such permanent career pols as bloated ticks on the hide of our democracy.

Scheer does himself no favours by have a smarmy pol like Skippy as his right hand person.
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That's your argument for Andrew Scheer for Prime Minister? No education, insurance salesman?
Hmmmmmm?
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justincase wrote:
That's your argument for Andrew Scheer for Prime Minister? No education, insurance salesman?
Hmmmmmm?


First off, at least he probably knows that the "Baltic States" are a thing.

Here's Justin Trudeau, former snow-board instructor and failed drama teacher:



Who cares if Andrew Scheer is an insurance salesman? What does that have to do with anything? And you are going to sit here and shill for the stupid Liberals and the unqualified JT and bash others? You realize this is a stupid and failed way to go right? You will lose.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:Who cares if Andrew Scheer is an insurance salesman? What does that have to do with anything? And you are going to sit here and shill for the stupid Liberals and the unqualified JT and bash others? You realize this is a stupid and failed way to go right? You will lose.


Canadians, it matters to Canadians. Listen Green, Andrew's only non-political job was an insurance salesman....and your buying that? I am not saying "school teacher" is the ideal profession in the lead up to Prime Minister, but it comes with a certain compassion, empathy and caring that our typical Lawyer PM's lack. What does it take to be a good salesman? Let me tell you Green.
-glib and superficial charm.
-grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self.
-need for stimulation.
-cunning and manipulativeness.
-lack of remorse or guilt.
-shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
-callousness and lack of empathy
Though, Trudeau only has 2 Degrees and was working on his 3rd a Master's when he was called up to serve. His privilege of being the son of a former Prime Minister has also afforded a vast external education of traveling to 90 countries (no amount of book learning can truly prepare one for the different world cultures). He is steeped in tradition and has mingled with some of civilization's greats including the great conservatives ( his learned diplomacy is displayed in his dealings with conservative Trump and his pension for including conservatives in the big decisions he makes on behalf of Canadians).
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I personally don't care if the guy is a plumber or has 9 doctorates. I only care if he understands the issues. While I have been critical of Trudeau in many respects, I will never criticize his experience or lack thereof to do the job as PM. Drama teacher, insurance salesman, or lawyer, it doesn't matter to me.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
justincase wrote:
That's your argument for Andrew Scheer for Prime Minister? No education, insurance salesman?
Hmmmmmm?


First off, at least he probably knows that the "Baltic States" are a thing.

Here's Justin Trudeau, former snow-board instructor and failed drama teacher:



Who cares if Andrew Scheer is an insurance salesman? What does that have to do with anything? And you are going to sit here and shill for the stupid Liberals and the unqualified JT and bash others? You realize this is a stupid and failed way to go right? You will lose.
LMAO!! What a maroon. Only JT would hand Quebec a verbal *bleep* by answering English questions in French. Perhaps if they'd said les Etats Baltes he have had a clue. Lord help us, everyone.
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Glacier wrote:I personally don't care if the guy is a plumber or has 9 doctorates. I only care if he understands the issues.


So, when you have a tummy ache, mommy will do?
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