Did the Conservatives pick a Dud?

[Omnitheo]

The fact you think you could identify communists on this forum reaffirms the fact you really have zero understanding of the difference between communism or socialism. Or really a lack of understanding of any political ideologies. You just shout out phrases that you hear on TV or in other hyperbolic circles of ignorance and rhetoric.

That’s not what this thread is about though. It’s about the Dull Goose that the cons picked to lead their party. It’s about how after years of believing voters elected Trudeau because he was young, with hair, and people want selfies with him, and attacking him for it, they picked a leader who was young, had hair, and took lots of selfies. And now they’ll go into the next election and wonder why it didn’t work. Because they just don’t get it.

[The Green Barbarian]

The whole world sees the old and tired ideas of the right have been tried and have failed (over and over and over again). We already know what doesn’t work.

LOL - yes, it's just the views of the "right" that have been tried and have failed over and over again. What a brilliant deception. You don't honestly believe that it's only the ideas of "the right" that have failed, over and over again, do you? Seriously? That'd require some pretty giant partisan blinders, and we know how much you hate that label.

[The Green Barbarian]

Scheer is homophobic so of course he's a dud.

And if you are going to say such outlandish and stupid things without any sort of proof at all, then I guess Trudeau and Jagmeet are homophobic too.

[HorganIsMyHero]

And if you are going to say such outlandish and stupid things without any sort of proof at all, then I guess Trudeau and Jagmeet are homophobic too.

There's this thing called YouTube....

I'd rather not go to a lot of trouble posting sources and videos as everything will just be called fake news and I'll be called a communist because...reasons

[Ka-El]

You don't honestly believe that it's only the ideas of "the right" that have failed, over and over again, do you? Seriously? That'd require some pretty giant partisan blinders, and we know how much you hate that label.

Of course I don't believe that it's only the ideas of "the right" that have failed, over and over again. Anyone who made it all the way through high school knows communism has always failed (as it morphs into totalitarianism), and a lot of socialist countries as well (although some are highly successful). Of course, most people who made it all the way through high school also know the differences between the ideologies of communism, socialism, liberalism, etc. and know Canada will never be a communist country. That is just beyond silly, and really just makes anyone making the implication look stupid.

p.s. our solutions, and the way forward lies down the middle where people are listening (really listening) to each others ideas

[Omnitheo]

They actually teach political ideology in high school. I know it wasn’t a popular class. Mine did terribly in it where I aced it. I wonder if some people here just skipped that class or dropped out early, or maybe attended school before it was part of the curriculum. Those in my age group here without any understanding of political ideology though must have just been lazy slackers I guess.

[The Green Barbarian]

*removed*

[The Green Barbarian]

Of course I don't believe that it's only the ideas of "the right" that have failed, over and over again..

Glad you can admit this. I would hate to see you wearing partisan blinders on this issue, as it wouldn't suit your C-net persona.

[The Green Barbarian]

and a lot of socialist countries as well (although some are highly successful).

Success is a relative term. I realize that Scandinavian countries are always trumpeted as "successful", including Norway which has now managed to produce an entire generation that are becoming world champion video game players, all subsidized by Norway's social welfare largesse. What I will agree with is that there has to be a balance between right and left, for there to be true success. If one side or the other gets too powerful, it can result in terrible human suffering. Tommy Douglas may be a champion of the "left", but he never ran a deficit. How many politician, of either political stripe in this day and age, can say that?

[Ka-El]

Glad you can admit this. I would hate to see you wearing partisan blinders on this issue, as it wouldn't suit your C-net persona.

p.s. our solutions, and the way forward lies down the middle where people are listening (really listening) to each others ideas

I know I added this after you read my post, but I promise I wasn't deliberately trying to set you up to look foolish.
C'mon GB, we can do better

[Ka-El]

What I will agree with is that there has to be a balance between right and left, for there to be true success.

... and that is what I have always argued (don't know how that reconciles with this partisan nonsense)

[The Green Barbarian]

I know I added this after you read my post, but I promise I wasn't deliberately trying to set you up to look foolish.

Ah, you didn't make me look foolish (why would you even write something this silly?). Read my last post. I totally agree with you - balance is what is needed.

C'mon GB, we can do better

I agree. We can do better. Feeding the delusions of the closet Stalinites here does no good to anyone, including only talking about how it's the failed policies of the "right" that are to blame. This just isn't true, and deliberately excludes a lot of people on the Left, who justly deserve similar rebukes. So let's "do better" and both drop our apparent partisan blinders.

[Omnitheo]

Now that we’ve gotten the ideological ignorance and us vs them bashing out of the way, can we go back to talking about how unfit Scheer is.

The next political debates are going to be really fun to watch.

[The Green Barbarian]

Now that we’ve gotten the ideological ignorance and us vs them bashing out of the way, can we go back to talking about how unfit Scheer is.
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Or how fit he is, depending on your view. I realize that all the Leftists here want to do is spin more nonsense and lies about Scheer's stances on various issues, and then use these lies to pronounce him "unfit". I for one want to give the guy a bit more time to get into the role. Is he "just not ready?" Probably. Compared to the brainless boob that is currently running the Liberal party, how ready do you have to be?

[Ka-El]

I agree. We can do better. Feeding the delusions of the closet Stalinites here does no good to anyone, including only talking about how it's the failed policies of the "right" that are to blame. This just isn't true, and deliberately excludes a lot of people on the Left, who justly deserve similar rebukes. So let's "do better" ...

Agreed that some of the ideas being promoted by certain left-wing posters here are extreme and out to lunch. The thing is, we have never and we will never will adopt any of these extreme left-wing ideas. On the other hand, some of the right-wing ideas we have tried ("trickle-down as just one example), and even though it doesn't work we keep getting governments that want to try it again. The Conservative mantra sometimes seems to be "If it's broke, don't fix it". Anyways, things to do ...