Kickstart the Energy East pipeline project again

[Ka-El]

Saudi Arabia dispute shows it’s time to kickstart Energy East

The best thing the Liberal government could do in response to the diplomatic and trade war started by Saudi Arabia is to kickstart the Energy East pipeline project again. The second best thing they could do is tell Saudi Arabia that we don’t need their dirty oil and source it from the Americans instead. The last thing we should do is apologize.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4374908/dani ... ergy-east/

[jimmy4321]

I don't know the ins and outs of it but we should go all out and refine our oil.

[Jflem1983]

Would be a well timed prudent gesture. I think that is the pipeline our country actually needs anyways. We need em both. ENERGY EAST is a best option

[Jlabute]

Saudi Arabia dispute shows it’s time to kickstart Energy East

The best thing the Liberal government could do in response to the diplomatic and trade war started by Saudi Arabia is to kickstart the Energy East pipeline project again. The second best thing they could do is tell Saudi Arabia that we don’t need their dirty oil and source it from the Americans instead. The last thing we should do is apologize.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4374908/dani ... ergy-east/

Three cheers for this, even if it were from a Russian bot ;-)

[blue iguana]

Former TransCanada CEO confirms it didn't walk from Energy East for market reasons but rather the "hopeless" additional regulatory burdens placed on the project by Trudeau government - See Video

'Absolutely devastating': Kvisle blasts feds' regulatory overhaul
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/kvisle-1.1125428
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Kvisle also said that the Energy East pipeline could be resurrected, but only if the Canadian government puts its support behind the project.

“If the government was to come out and say: ‘We are 100 per cent behind Energy East and we want you to go ahead and we want you to do the detailed regulatory work,’ we could see that project go ahead,” Kvisle said.

“But, we need more than just: ‘Why don’t you reapply? And let’s see what happens this time,’” he added. “That’s not going to work anymore. People aren’t going to go ahead under that basis.”

[hobbyguy]

Pipeline politics are toxic in this country because there is too much money flowing in from American interests that want to lock in their control over Canadian oil. They put tons of $$$ into "green* washing" and "red washing" their agendas.

Once the TMX is built, up and running, and "the sky does not fall"... then "we" can revisit the Energy East proposal... although the original proposal was badly flawed, in that it was an export pipeline, not a "grand bargain" proposal that would create good paying refining jobs in eastern Canada and refine our own oil. That "grand bargain" type of proposal could be sold to Canadians on the right balance - but I'm afraid the original proposal was a political dead duck.

There isn't much that can be done about that flawed proposal - and it made little sense if the TMX was to be built to provide access to the prime Asian markets. In fact, I suspect that the tea leaves said the TMX was going ahead, and the proponents of the original Energy East realized that it would be unprofitable if the TMX (lower cost and closer to target markets) was built.

[blue iguana]

Now compare this to what the Energy East pipeline went through and that oil imports to Canada face none of our environmental standards.

McInnis cement plant to create jobs in Gaspé region, but Quebec's greenhouse gas emissions to rise by 6%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.4306422
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Built at a cost of $1.45 billion, much of that taxpayers' money, the plant is meant to produce a "greener" cement, using biomass instead of coal.

However, the cement plant will produce 1.8 million tonnes of greenhouse gases per year, making it the largest single emitter in the province.

That will increase greenhouse gas emissions in the province by an estimated two per cent — and emissions in Quebec's industrial sector will rise by six per cent.

The project was not subject to environmental review board hearings because it was initially proposed before the hearings process, known as BAPE, existed.

In 2015, the Couillard government passed a law reaffirming that the Port-Daniel–Gascons project would not be required to undergo an environmental review.

In Quebec, a cement factory encased in hypocrisy
Why did the Quebec government hand millions to an emission-belching, billionaire-owned cement factory?
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/in- ... hypocrisy/
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Whether it is an astute public investment or the product of political favouritism, this much is true: the plant, which is located on the southern flank of Quebec’s Gaspé Peninsula, will emit between 1.8 and 2.2 million tonnes of greenhouse gases a year after it starts up this fall. This will make it the largest emitter of carbon in the province, according to Canada’s environment ministry, and will dwarf the yearly emissions of Shell Canada’s oil sands operations in Fort McMurray, Alta.

It will also rival, if not exceed, the emissions associated with the Energy East pipeline project, which Quebec has opposed on environmental grounds. According to figures in a report prepared for the Ontario Energy Board, the planned pipeline that would transport bitumen eastward from Alberta will generate somewhere between 0.7 and 4.3 million tonnes of extra carbon a year, depending on increases in production. At the very least, the cement plant will generate the equivalent of roughly half those emissions from a single location—without an environmental assessment.

[bernie428]

The one that always gets me is that Montreal doesn't want the east pipeline running through the area, doesn't want tankers in the St Lawrence River, but have no problem using oil brought in through the Bay Of Fundy. I guess the bay isn't worth keeping safe.