NRA Lobbying causes US shootings

[westbankkid]

Looks like another multiple shooting in the US. When will the US Government ignore the gun toting idiots in the NRA who possess AUTOMATIC WEAPONS and make possession and purchase illegal. The number of American civilian and Police Officers wounded and/or killed by AK 47's is crazy.

[grammafreddy]

:1419: Looks like another multiple shooting in the US. When will the US Government ignore Charlton Heston and his gun toting idiots in the NRA who possess AUTOMATIC WEAPONS and make possession and purchase illegal. The number of American civilian and Police Officers wounded and/or killed by AK 47's is crazy.

Ofercrissakes. The NRA had nothing to do with any of this. If a criminal/deranged idiot/cartel wants an AK47 or any other high powered weapon, you think gun laws are gonna stop them?

Get real. You don't seriously think these kind of people are gonna register their guns or not buy them just because there's a law against them, do you?

The number of American civilian and Police Officers wounded and/or killed by AK 47's is crazy more because the US has a serious crime problem with Mexican, South American and Middle East cartels rather than because ordinary citizens are allowed to own guns.

[hardnut]

No need to go into a lot of depth here for a troll, but let's point out that very, very few people in the States own automatic weapons - they are illegal except for people who go through in-depth criminal reviews, fingerprinting and expensive transfer payments. As for -

The number of American civilian and Police Officers wounded and/or killed by AK 47's is crazy.

- please quote your source and the numbers.

[grammafreddy]

Pssst, westbankkid ... Charlton Heston should be easy to ignore. He died in 2008.

[Rwede]

:1419: Looks like another multiple shooting in the US. When will the US Government ignore Charlton Heston and his gun toting idiots in the NRA who possess AUTOMATIC WEAPONS and make possession and purchase illegal. The number of American civilian and Police Officers wounded and/or killed by AK 47's is crazy.

Oh boy, have you got it bassackwards. Do you think gun laws prevent people from getting the guns they want?

And, as for Charlton Heston, may he rest in peace.

The NRA is a group of hunters, farmers, and sports shooters who fight to keep their right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed in the US Constitution. Of course, on the other side, we have the Obamas who ignore completely the rights granted citizens in the Constitution, and attempt to slam law-abiding citizens in favour of having only criminals own firearms.

[Popeye69]

The NRA is a stupid and irresponsible organization. To promote firearm ownership blindly and doing whatever it takes to ensure laws are lax is what is killing Americans.
NOT EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A GUN.
Just like not everyone should have kids.
God given right or not some people just cant handle the responsibility of owning a firearm. They drink and shoot someone, or they get in a stupid fight and shoot someone, or they have vendettas and try to exact their revenge yet kill innocent people in the process( driveby shootings)
The NRA is a fanatical organization that uses God as a baseball bat and the constituition as a crowbar.
We all know what fanatics are capable of... just try tellin an NRA member they have to give up their gun for just one day... They will shoot you.... and at the very least they will threaten to shoot you if you try.

How sensible and reasonable... Their very mentality warrants concern.

Canada is not swimming in firearms because our laws prohibit it, unlike the U.S (example..-Bowling for Columbine- Banks in the U.S giving out free guns for opening a bank account.) American gun companies have used capitalism to its full potential and combined with lax gun control and the NRA have successfully flooded every street corner and household with guns.
They need gun control, if not to stop the problem, then at the very least, not make it worse.

Yes people kill people..not guns. Guns just make it easier... annnd if its easy to get a gun... then thus it is easier to kill.
Simple logic.
If its hard to get a gun... then u gotta use your hands...
and most people are lazy.

[grammafreddy]

God given right or not some people just cant handle the responsibility of owning a firearm. They drink and shoot someone, or they get in a stupid fight and shoot someone, or they have vendettas and try to exact their revenge yet kill innocent people in the process( driveby shootings)

Yeah ... and it happens here in Canada, too, even with our *wonderful* anti-gun laws and tight controls.

Plain and simple - if someone wants a gun, they will have a gun - legal or otherwise. Our gun laws in this country are stupid but then some people just have to be babysat all their lives and think we all need to be mommied to death because they are too immature to think for themselves and be responsible without laws to tell them how to behave.

However, I do agree - some people just shouldn't have kids. Wanna outlaw that, too, now? Need it mommied into law to make you happy? Think we all should have permits to copulate?

[westbankkid]

Yeah ... and it happens here in Canada, too, even with our *wonderful* anti-gun laws and tight controls.

Nowhere near as many in Canada as in the US. In 2010 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,996 murders in the US. Of those, 8,775 were caused by firearms. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... e-us-state
Canada had just over 125

[Gone_Fishin]

Gun control does nothing to stop any criminal from obtaining a firearm. If more law abiding citizens had firearms, there would be far fewer innocent people killed in this country by criminals. Firearm ownership is the best deterrent to violent crime. The NRA has it right, the leftists that want to legislate us into oblivion have it wrong.

To westbankkid - maybe you should check into relative population sizes (the US has 10 times as many people as Canada) and the socio-economic differences between the 2 countries. You better explain to me why Michigan, with 9.9 million people and legal rights to concealed-carry a handgun has only 49,000 violent crimes per year, while Alberta with 3.3 million people and no legal right to concealed-carry a handgun has 54,000 violent crimes per year. That blows your rant all to chit, doesn't it?

[westbankkid]

Gun control does nothing to stop any criminal from obtaining a firearm. If more law abiding citizens had firearms, there would be far fewer innocent people killed in this country by criminals. Firearm ownership is the best deterrent to violent crime. The NRA has it right, the leftists that want to legislate us into oblivion have it wrong.

To westbankkid - maybe you should check into relative population sizes (the US has 10 times as many people as Canada) and the socio-economic differences between the 2 countries. You better explain to me why Michigan, with 9.9 million people and legal rights to concealed-carry a handgun has only 49,000 violent crimes per year, while Alberta with 3.3 million people and no legal right to concealed-carry a handgun has 54,000 violent crimes per year. That blows your rant all to chit, doesn't it?

Your arguments hold no water. You must lack the mathematical skills to compute the difference if you figure population differences make it even. The US is 10 times Canada's population but the murder rate is 90 times what it is in Canada. Quite a difference. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_m ... h-firearms
There were 567 murders in Michigan in 2010.

[Nebula]

Firearm ownership is the best deterrent to violent crime.

Wow. Well if that's true, then we should issue Mac 10s to every household. Man, think of how serene our country would be.

[Winston_Smith]

If more law abiding citizens had firearms, there would be far fewer innocent people killed in this country by criminals. Firearm ownership is the best deterrent to violent crime.

Ummm...no.

[goalie]

I don't think nerds that go on shooting rampages should be compared to 'criminals'.
If you look at 90% of the shootings it's some pasty faced loser kid. Gun control won't stop 'criminals' from buying guns but you won't see to many of these guys buying guns from a couple of gangbangers. The kid would most likely end up being killed and the 'criminals' get to keep his money and the gun.

[Smurf]

The way I see it the only place gun control works is impulse shooting. If the person has any time to think about it at all there is time to get a gun, legal or illegal. I do have a problem with people being able to run around with AK47's at any time. There is really no reason whatsoever for it.

[Liquidnails]

America needs to promote firearms education over bans and legislation. Teach people the 4 rules of gun safety at least.