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After Israel released over a thousand convicted jew haters in exchange for the release of one IDF soldier, several of those released convicts were re-arrested in the commission of new crimes including the murder of a jew who's only offense was driving with his family on his way to a seder.

19 days ago three jewish teenagers were kidnapped on their way home from school. Yesterday their murdered bodies were found burried in a shallow grave of stones not far from where they were taken.

Abductions and murders have happened before but something about this one gives me the feeling it's a permanent game changer.




Execute the death cult's emissaries
Dror Eydar - Israel Hayom

What has the death culture that surrounds us sought to sell in the past hundred years? Look around: there are no Jews in Iraq and no "territories" in Syria, and nevertheless the angels of death gleefully slaughter each other. No science and no industry and no inventions that will benefit humanity. Just death, and it's wrapped in a thick layer of damned political correctness that has distorted our thought process.

Dozens of organizations stand up for the rights of the emissaries of the death culture while we are stunned by the additional absurdity that crosses the bounds of tolerance. "Just as long as we don't associate Islam with terrorism" has been the line of the Obama administration since he was first elected and up through the catastrophic embrace of the Fatah-Hamas unity government. The abduction of the three teens Gil-ad Shaer, Naftali Frenkel, and Eyal Yifrach began when humanity's healthy consciousness was hijacked.

If we don't realize that the executioners who pack the condemned into cattle trucks and lay them by the dozens or hundreds in ditches and put them to death amid devilish ululations -- if we don't get that this bunch is operating on our borders, and that its successes encourage our own local death culture, we will have to pay heavier prices in the future.


Action

We must employ full force against the emissaries of the death culture, those who aid them, their military and civilian infrastructure, their sources of funding, their families, their clans, and anyone who knows something but just nods his head and keeps quiet.

We know the argument that keeps us emasculated: "It will only increase tension and give an incentive to terror and strengthen the cycle of bloodshed." Not at all. The culture of death doesn't need incentives -- it kills and murders and kidnaps, because that's what it is. Perpetuum mobile. It's a shame to go on.

Instead of trying to understand, we should look at it as a natural phenomenon. No one negotiates with cancer cells -- we fight to dig them out at the root. If new ones appear? We'll fight again. And if, heaven forbid, again? We'll fight again. That's our fate. In the past 150 years we have learned to grasp a scythe with one hand and a sword with the other. Up until now we've managed all right, thank God.

Our neighbors and all the saints of the death culture will learn that we aren't afraid of it, and we aren't afraid of close-up photos of cut-off heads and spilled guts. They are the ones who should be afraid of us and of their own deterioration, because that culture will bring destruction only upon themselves.


The families

From time to time we hear despairing remarks about the state of the young generation and how idealism is fading, about spreading materialism and "Big Brother"-style reality shows and all the rest. But then larger-than-life characters appear who don't keep their distance but rather give us courage to live and believe, and even in their grief give the entire nation strength.

In this case, these were the mothers and fathers who stood up and reminded us of life truths. If we want to live -- and we do -- this is the way, the example we should follow. The rest of the complaints and the debates are transitory foam on top of the deep currents inside us that are stronger than any horror.

These mothers even faced the world, in one of the most hypocritical places on earth -- the U.N. Human Rights Council (rights that include everything except the right of the Jews to a single independent state and to defend themselves.) And there, in that place, they spoke for all of us, throwing the truth in the impassive faces of Israel's persecutors. That is why Israel has embraced these families so strongly. Not only to comfort them, but also in thanks.


The settlements

Aah, the accusers said, they're settlers, so it's understandable and there is room to explain, and anyway they brought it upon themselves, and all sorts of other stupid remarks that only Jews would know how to fling at each other, even when at the gates of the death industry.

But that's just it -- we're all settlers. Not just in the hills of Samaria and Judea, but also in Tel Aviv. In the eyes of our neighbors and some parts of the world we are all people who stole a land that wasn't theirs. This blood libel is spread every day by anti-Semites and haters of Israel, as well as by useful idiots among us. There's nothing new under the sun. But this is the truth: We are settlers because we returned to settle our forefathers' inherited land. It's simple. This country was a wasteland that waited for its rightful descendents for 2,000 years, like a mother keeping her milk for her true children, like a woman waiting endlessly for her lover who disappeared.

Various conquerors and nomads from the four ends of the earth have arrived in this country. But since we Jews were exiled, no other sovereign entity has sprung up in this land. What would this country be if it weren't for the Jews? What would Jerusalem be without the Jews? The groups of strangers never wanted to compromise with the Jews who survived extermination and came home after a long exile. Even today they refuse to compromise and seek to oust us from the entire country. From Tel Aviv, too. This murder is the latest in a long line of murdered Jews, the cursed fruit of the death culture of our neighbors. The fight for Israel is our fight for life. In the face of a culture that has sanctified death, the boys' families showed us the sanctity of life and devotion to the land of our life.


Prayer

Israeli society discovered at the height of the matter an ancient weapon in the history of our nation: prayer. The People of the Book believe in the written and spoken word, it its power to imbue the skies and build on earth; to pierce the heavens and mainly to rejoin those who are separated. Singing in a group is also prayer. Some were startled by this religious awakening, but most of us prayed, each in his/her own way and style.

The legitimacy given to public prayer won't dissipate; it will remain. The purity of prayer will restore -- if not the dead, then at least those left behind, letting them cling together to the power of the ancient words and remember where we came from and where we are going. Even if it seems like the door is shut and the decree has been made, it is accepted in the tradition of our people that: "Even if a sharp sword rests upon a man's neck he should not desist from prayer." It's a matter of culture. And belief. And in the end, we will remember the deep, courageous words of Rachel Frenkel, Naftali's mother: "God doesn't work for us."


Revenge

We still don't know exactly what happened, but in sane places people don't die from flagging down a ride. No sane place carries on a hypocritical dialogue about the necessity of hitchhiking while our boys' blood is spilled. No sane place indirectly justifies the bitter fate of these youths, our children.

Don't preach, the ones who always preach against us in favor of our enemies will say. Don't listen to them and to the castrating talk. We are allowed to be angry and impassioned about the murder of our children and an entire country's descent into madness. We are definitely allowed to seek revenge. We are the sane ones, not them.

I always wondered why God asks Adam in the Garden of Eden why he ate the forbidden fruit, and then asks the woman, but doesn't ask the snake -- he metes out immediate punishment. Here is the answer: We don't ask snakes why they bite. We cut off their heads.
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I'm terribly saddened by the deaths of those three young boys, but I am also saddened by deaths on both sides of this conflict. There is plenty of blame to go around, but the word you need to know is occupation:



"If peace is what you're after, then let us not deceive,
It will come on the day the settlers return to Tel Aviv"

Additionally:



And before you claim that this musician is anti-Semitic:

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Remember when religion is involved there will never be peace.
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Don't take my silence to mean I've agreed with you; I easily could've just lost interest in explaining how wrong you are.
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The attacks, beatings, rapes, and murders of Jews in "Palestine" and elsewhere LONG BEFORE the re-establishment of the Jewish state had absolutely nothing to do with a so-called "occupation" that didn't exist ... and these killings don't either.

I think the cheers, jeers and three finger salutes, the renewed daily multiple rocket attacks and the deafening indifference from the international community while the three were still missing has angered and finally broken something in those Israelis who still naively hoped for progress towards a future of peaceful co-existence.

Every time there's so-called peace talks, they're followed by murdered Jews. There's too many millions of Euros and dollars that the Arab leaders stand to lose with real peace. Dead Jews and conflict means the millions will keep flowing.

It's a bad sign when this many Israelis don't care anymore about what you think and don't understand.
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Israel arrested six suspects Sunday in the grisly slaying of a Palestinian teenager who was abducted and burned alive last week — a crime that set off a wave of violent protests in Arab sections of the country.

Leaders of the Jewish state appealed for calm amid signs the death was revenge for the recent killings of three Israeli teenagers.

"We will not allow extremists, it doesn't matter from which side, to inflame the region and cause bloodshed," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a nationally televised statement. "Murder is murder, incitement is incitement, and we will respond aggressively to both."

He promised to prosecute those responsible to the full extent of the law.
im sure you cheered when you heard of this there sobro ?
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lakevixen wrote: im sure you cheered when you heard of this there sobro ?

I'm sure you mean when I heard about the arrest.

Just like I cheered when I heard about the interview of Ali Shaban, the Israeli muslim arab who urged the Netanyahu government to delay no further and invade Gaza and the Palestinian authority territories. He said he wished Israel could finally end Hamas rule and deal directly with Arab representatives who reflect more the views of the multitudes who support a peacefull relationship with their Jewish neighbours but who have no voice for fear they would face public execution as traitors.

I think that kind of change should come by the Arabs themselves. The peaceloving among them probably only have their vote to fight with - and against Hamas, that's probably never going to be enough.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/t ... fault.aspx
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ok fair enough
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Hamas was democratically elected by people living under occupation under Israel's thumb.

Israel wants a "more friendly government to deal with"?
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The whole region from Iran in the East to Syria in the North & Egypt in the South is powder keg just waiting to go off. When it does blowup, you don't want to be anywhere near it.
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Don't take my silence to mean I've agreed with you; I easily could've just lost interest in explaining how wrong you are.
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Glacier wrote:


9/11 happened because the US unilaterally supports Israel with massive injections of military aid and providing arms directly while it conducts(ed) illegal wars and military action and human rights violations against the Palestinian people .

Huge allocations of taxpayer dollars specifically earmarked for Israeli arms purchases from US arm manufactures. Tax dollars handed directly over to Lockheed Martin and Co. to arm Israel (in the FREE MARKET USA lol) while they violated international law. Obama Bin Laden stated these reasons were his motivations to attack the US - directly. We would have heard more if there was a trial, but he was not about to be able to state his reasons (again) for attacking.

Israel is "the canary in the coal mine"? The thing "keeping" the terrorists from attacking the world?

It's a known fact that Israels foreign policy and North American support of Israel is the reason the war on terror happened in the first place. The actual existence of Israel and support was to put a foothold on the worlds energy supply and be able to impose Western policy by force on the region post WWII when the US was drafting up plans to rule the world. Is it a surprise the inhabitants of the occupied/imperialized region are fighting back? This is no secret.
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... l-war.html

Report: Israel warns 100,000 Gaza residents to move back from border


About 100,000 Gaza residents living in cities near the border with Israel were reportedly told Thursday to leave their homes ahead of anticipated military action by the Israeli army, according to Israeli media reports.


Displace 100,000 people because Israel, poor Israel, will be conducting military operations in civilian centers in the one of the most densely populated regions of the world.

Where are the people suppose to go? It's a 11km wide strip of land.

At least 88 people have been killed in three days of Israel's latest offensive on the Gaza Strip, and more than 50 of them were civilians, according to Gaza medical officials. Hundreds more have been injured.

In Israel, there have been no reports of any deaths resulting from hundreds of rockets sent from Gaza in recent days.


Occupy a country, oppress and commit massive human rights violation against the people there, and when they "protest and fight back" a little you drop bombs in civilian centers and kill about 100 people for rattling the fences of their occupiers. If that isn't enough, then tell 100,000 more people to leave their homes (they have no where to go) because they will be at risk from being killed from more "equal and equivalent" military action. If they die it's their own fault now I suppose.

UNICEF said Thursday that among the Palestinian fatalities were 19 children


Don't worry, they were HAMAS children.

“Since 2000, more than 1,000 children have been killed as a result of repeated Israeli military offensives on Gaza,” said Brad Parker, international advocacy officer at Defense for Children International-Palestine. “The current regime of collective punishment implemented through an almost seven-year-old blockade, targeted assassinations and regular military offensives all but guarantees the situation for Gaza’s children will continue to deteriorate.”

Since the assault began, Israel said it has bombed more than 750 targets. It has targeted the homes of members of armed groups, which it describes as “command centers.” It blames Hamas for exposing civilians to the risk of airstrikes by operating in residential areas.


The entire Gaza strip is a "civilian center", Israel.
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