Australia Hostage Taking

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There were over 16,000 murders in the US last year. Killing isn't unique to any one religion.

Ssshhhh....enough of that. The U.S. Is perfect.

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Over 500,000 Iraqis died since the second desert storm. The u.s. Had no reason to enter.

[johnp3]

I believe we need to have a policy to react to situations, I hope Harpo is out of his hiding spot, the closet coward that he proved to be.
I would recommend any religious group or individual that hold anybody hostage for up to 4 hours, be immediately deported, Syria is a great dumping ground, anybody that hold hostages for over 4 hours then in a sliding scale their family is deported as well. Say 6 hours mom and dad, 8 gets you all aunts and uncles, 10 gets the complete family, all their assets are confiscated.
Harpo bought those C17's and they have those big cargo boxes and parachutes just fly over and eject them and never allow anyone related to ever come back.
We could include people that preach hate lies and fear, that would include most everyone at the sun news grouping, load them up and ship them off.

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There were over 16,000 murders in the US last year. Killing isn't unique to any one religion.

And there were 50,000 murders in Brazil last year, and 33,000 murders in Nigeria. What is your point? You really aren't comparing apples to oranges. Just because people were murdered in a country means nothing. People are murdered all of the time, for the dumbest reasons. The question to ask is - how many of those 16,000 murders in the US last year were due to religion? I would bet almost zero.

[logicalview]

I believe we need to have a policy to react to situations, I hope Harpo is out of his hiding spot, the closet coward that he proved to be.

Where were Mulcair and Trudeau hiding? Was Trudeau even in the Parliament at the time? He spends more time kissing brides then he does in the House.

We could include people that preach hate lies and fear, that would include most everyone at the sun news grouping, load them up and ship them off.

Be careful, that's a pretty big net. David Suzuki and everyone at the CBC would be caught in it too.

[logicalview]

Over 500,000 Iraqis died since the second desert storm. The u.s. Had no reason to enter.

ok - so say your number is true. It was dumb to go into Iraq. What does this have to do with the daily slaughter that is occurring around the globe in the name of Islam? You just sound like you are trying to make excuses.

Here's what's happened in the past few days:

2014.12.13 (Haditha, Iraq) - Two Shahid suicide bombings leave twelve dead.
2014.12.13 (Lashkar Gah, Afghanistan) - Twelve workers are machine-gunned by the Taliban while trying to clear an area of mines.
2014.12.12 (Fercha, Algeria) - Islamists shoot and then slit the throat of a 56-year-old man.
2014.12.12 (Gush Etzion, Israel) - A Palestinian throws acid onto a family, including young children.
2014.12.11 (Jos, Nigeria) - Islamic extremists bomb a crowded food stand, ending the lives of over three dozen innocents.
2014.12.11 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - A Shahid suicide bomber detonates next to a bus, killing six passengers.

What does any of this have to do with 16,000 people being murdered last year in the US? Nothing. This is senseless killing, in the name of a religion, and it has to stop.

[brounal]

Why was this guy out on bail? Amazing... They should have snipered his *bleep* as soon as they had a clear shot. And its great he is dead ,wasting money on these people is totally *bleep*. But still would be nice to see them rot in prison maybe then give them a quick death. They don't deserve a quick death.

[logicalview]

Looks like the fun in Sydney is just getting started...

Six Members of a Muslim Child Rape Gang Set Free in Sydney Australia

A victim of a series of sickening rapes which caused national outrage in Australia says she is fearful about the imminent release of yet another member of the gang which terrorized girls just before the Sydney Olympics.

The State Parole Board of NSW has announced it will release ‘H’, an unidentifed member of the notorious Skaf rape gang whose degrading and racist sex crimes still shock the nation almost 14 years on.

The victim was a 16-year-old when she was raped by the gang leader, Bilal Skaf, in front of 12 men in a public park and had a gun held to her head by a second man who also raped her, before kicking her in the stomach.

The release of ‘H’ will mean two-thirds of the the original gang, which comprised young men of Lebanese background and included two sets of brothers, has now been freed from prison.

The victim’s mother told MailOnline the release frightened her daughter, and the fact half the gang were ‘out and roaming around’ was a major concern.

‘H’ was one of 14 mostly Muslim Lebanese Australians who went on a four-week rampage orchestrated by gang leader Bilal Skaf, raping Australian women and teenage girls in Sydney in the lead up to the 2000 Olympics.

The gang members, aged between 13 and 18 years, lured the girls from shopping centres and train stations and took them to parks and public toilet blocks.

One of the victims was raped 25 times by a total of 14 men at Bankstown, in Sydney’s west, in an ordeal that lasted six hours, during which the attackers subjected her to racist taunts.

They called her an ‘Aussie Pig’, told her she would be raped ‘Leb-style’ and asked if ‘Leb c*** tastes better than Aussie c***’.
Afterwards, the rapists cleaned her down with a fire hose.

Two 16-year-old girls were raped repeatedly over five hours and told ‘you deserve it because you’re Australian’.
When police caught the gang, the available evidence allowed only nine members go to trial.

During court hearings, the men’s family members abused legal and court officials.

Family members spat at the media and others, and one female relative called the Crown Prosecutor, Margaret Cunneen, SC, a ‘sharmoota’, which means ‘*bleep*’ in Arabic.

In sentencing, Judge Michael Finnane described the rapes as events ‘you hear about or read about only in the context of wartime atrocities’.

When gang leader, Bilal Skaf, aged 18 at the time of his rapes, received a maximum 55 year sentence, there was outcry among the Lebanese Australian community.

Skaf appealed and his sentence was reduced. Appeals have also reduced the compulsory jail time of the other gang members.

‘H’, who was 16 years old when he participated in the rapes and who is said to have the mental age of a child, is now 30 and will walk from Sydney’s Parklea Correctional Centre as early as February 18.

He is the second gang member to be set free from prison in six months, and his release will mean six members of the nine men convicted have been freed, although one, Mahmoud Sanoussi, is being held in custody on charges of allegedly bashing a cleaner in southwestern Sydney.

Mahmoud Sanoussi is now allegedly a member of Sydney’s most notorious Middle Eastern gang, the Brothers For Life.

His association with the gang meant his brother and fellow Skaf gang member, Mohamed Sanoussi, could not be released to the Sanoussi family home when paroled last year.

Mohamed Sanoussi’s release sparked widespread public criticism of the Australian justice system.

Sanoussi, who had successfully appealed his original sentence, which was whittled down from a 21 year maximum to 12 years served, was involved in the rapes and assaults in a park on two women who were forced to give oral sex to eight males.

Victims of Crime Assistance League campaigner Howard Brown said the existing parole system might prove insufficient to properly supervise Sanoussi on his release.

‘As recent cases show there has been an erosion of public confidence in the justice system,’ he said. ‘When a [sex offender] will be released, we have to keep really close tabs on him.’

As MailOnline can now reveal, Mohamed Sanoussi and now ‘H’, join other Skaf gang rapists who have been quietly released into the community.

Tayyab Sheikh was released to parole in June 2007, three years before the expiration of his full sentence.

Mahmoud Chami was released to parole in April 2013 and another unnamed rapist, ‘T’, has also been freed.
The victim’s mother who spoke with MailOnine said her daughter had made a big effort to get on with her life, which was jeopardised by the new of ‘yet another’ release of a rape gang member.

‘She has her bad days and she’s not the girl she was. She has a lot of concerns about her safety and that of [her family].
‘She can be very paranoid. We hope these men will be strongly monitored in the community.’

The victim’s mother said it was her ‘gut feeling’ the two gang leaders will win early release from prison.
Bilal Skaf, now aged 32, is not eligible for parole until February 11, 2033, and his younger brother Mohammed may apply for parole on July 1, 2019.

It was Mohammed Skaf, who the victim thought was a friend, who took her to the public park where his brother raped her.
The victim’s mother said every news report about the Skafs and the other rapists brought back her horrifying ideal.
‘Her life is like swimming with shoes on,’ the mother said.

The parole board will release ‘H’ later this month on 27 conditions, which include he must not communicate with anyone under the age of 16 years by text messaging or the internet, and must undergo drug and alcohol testing.

http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/201 ... australia/

[logicalview]

Why was this guy out on bail? Amazing... They should have snipered his *bleep* as soon as they had a clear shot. And its great he is dead ,wasting money on these people is totally *bleep*. But still would be nice to see them rot in prison maybe then give them a quick death. They don't deserve a quick death.

He's with his 72 virgins now...

[the truth]

sad,sad,sad-

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Eventhough the U.S is responsible for more deaths of innocent civilians than any of the nation's being discussed, the actual number is clearly not the issue. So it must be motivation(terrorism) that is the issue at hand on this thread.

With this in mind does the definition of terrorism- being the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes not put the U.S and Isreal in the same boat?

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And there were 50,000 murders in Brazil last year, and 33,000 murders in Nigeria. What is your point? You really aren't comparing apples to oranges. Just because people were murdered in a country means nothing. People are murdered all of the time, for the dumbest reasons. The question to ask is - how many of those 16,000 murders in the US last year were due to religion? I would bet almost zero.

So if almost none of the 16,000 murders were due to religion, why are we even talking about it? It isn't an issue. If killing in the name of religion is such a minor problem, why has it become such a big issue?

Today a guy in Pennsylvania killed 5 or 6 people. The guy in Australia killed one person. Yet one of these is a much bigger international story. My guess is this year guys in Pennsylvania have killed more people in North America than radical Muslims. Should I be more afraid of radical Muslims or guys from Pennsylvania with guns?

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So if almost none of the 16,000 murders were due to religion, why are we even talking about it? It isn't an issue. If killing in the name of religion is such a minor problem, why has it become such a big issue?

Today a guy in Pennsylvania killed 5 or 6 people. The guy in Australia killed one person. Yet one of these is a much bigger international story. My guess is this year guys in Pennsylvania have killed more people in North America than radical Muslims. Should I be more afraid of radical Muslims or guys from Pennsylvania with guns?

Exactly. I am confused as to what the issue is.

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ok - so say your number is true. It was dumb to go into Iraq. What does this have to do with the daily slaughter that is occurring around the globe in the name of Islam? You just sound like you are trying to make excuses.

Please find me data that proves me wrong regarding the civilian casualties as a result of Britain and the U.S. from Desert Storms. Actually, don't worry about it because you won't be able to.

So when George Bush stated "In God we trust" before entering Afghanistan and Iraq it was perfectly fine for them to use or refer to religious motive? You are a aware that ISIS are people who had their land taken from them unlawfully, much like the Palestinians. The majority of the "Jihadists" simply want their own land they can call home. We did it for Isreal, so why can we not do it for them?

Perhaps you should educate yourself about the Israel and Palestinian conflict while you are at it.

I know that it's hard to learn the world from a computer, so maybe you should travel to places other than a sandy beach for once in your life. It might open your eyes.

[logicalview]

Eventhough the U.S is responsible for more deaths of innocent civilians than any of the nation's being discussed,

What?

the actual number is clearly not the issue. So it must be motivation(terrorism) that is the issue at hand on this thread.

Well no. It's about the fact that thousands of people every month are murdered in the name of Islam. We call it "terrorism" when it happens in a country like Australia, Canada, the UK, or the US. You know, when two guys cut off a soldier's head in broad daylight in the UK and then stand there praising Allah and covering themselves in his blood. That kind of thing. The rest of the world, like Iraq, Syria, Nigeria just call it "another day in our horrible lives".

With this in mind does the definition of terrorism- being the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes not put the U.S and Isreal in the same boat?

Well you can do that, and lots of people do. But it's not really the issue here. Americans aren't going around in countries all over the world and self-detonating in the middle of groups of school children. Israelis aren't making videos of hacking off the heads of people who aren't Jewish. There are countries, and then there is radical Islam. You can ignore it. You can make excuses for it. But one thing is for certain - it's not going away.