Putin - More dangerous than ISIS? Another Hitler?

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According to Gary Kasparov, Putin is more dangerous than ISIS. Like Hitler, he used to pretext of protecting ethnic Russians as a pretext to an invasion. He created separatist enclaves in Moldova (War of Transnistra), Georgia (South Ossetia and Abkhazia), and has stirred some trouble in Armenia. Now he is stirring trouble in the Donetsk and Lugansk provinces of Ukraine. What next? He is trying to create a separatist movement in Latvia - Latgale People's Republic. Could this be:

http://ukrainecrisisintel.blogspot.ca/2 ... r-keg.html
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http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/13/l ... se-munich/

http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/r ... es/380634/

...Peace in our time 2.0

Vladimir Putin has a way of switching allegiances to suit his agenda. Low oil prices could tempt him to align with ISIS to wipe out the Saudi Royal family, destroy OPEC, and have control over world oil prices. With mass immigration of muslims to European countries, and cash-rich ISIL, he could create a proxy war in Europe. He could start the next big war in Israel.
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Still less dangerous than George W. Bush
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Similar to Bush during the start of the Iraqi war, Hitler and Putin controlled the media in the name of nationilsm. One of the requirements to starting a war is the populations support, all three of these leaders through the use of propoganda and misinformation through the media managed to get that support. So I can certainly see the similarities between these three infamous men.

To be honest I'm just pleasantly suprised the captain didn't bring up Godwin's Law. Felt compelled to agree with him for a change.. :)
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any leader of a nation with nukes is dangerous, just be glad canada's radicalized prime minister does not have access to such weapons.
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Minsk agreement - remember Munich agreement with Hitler on September 30, 1938? Pretty much the same deal - giving Putler control on Donbass. Remember the 1936 Summer Olympics - compare to Sochi 2014. Sudentenland = Crimea.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

Putler, like Hitler seeks to build alliances - with joint military drills with North Korea - like Hitler did with Mussolini. Psychopath Kim Jon-Un meets sociopath Putin

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-plans-jo ... uba-303836

Then North Korea invades South Korea... nice - Russians now don't have to worry about their Samsung being embargoed.

Next, America is fighting in Korea... Putin arms ISIS, ISIS takes over the middle east... ISIS overthrows the Saudi Royal Family, now Russia controls world oil prices... delicious

Next, ISIS attacks Israel. Israel goes nuclear... scrumptious

Next... Putler finances terrorist acts through ISIS - and invades former eastern bloc countries.

Putin is a dangerous and unpredictable man, with an agenda of his own.
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Putin arms ISIS, ISIS takes over the middle east... ISIS overthrows the Saudi Royal Family, now Russia controls world oil prices... delicious
only problem with your theory is putin is backing the so called leader of syria , while there is some truth to the fact that isis is getting weapons from us backed troops that cave and run when isis comes knocking . saudis behead more people in a day than isis does in a year . is putin trying to ethnically cleans any race? is he building ovens anywhere? are american space astronauts not getting rides on russian rockets? ukraine is a side attraction for the americans and russians , but nothing to be overly concerned about
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dg3 wrote: any leader of a nation with nukes is dangerous, just be glad canada's radicalized prime minister does not have access to such weapons.

Only problem is he is trying to start a war with a country that does
(and that maybe even thinks it is a calculable risk using them).

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lakevixen wrote: ... , but nothing to be overly concerned about

Nah. War between the NATO countries and Russia in Europe. Nothing to worry about here.
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Only problem is he is trying to start a war with a country that does
(and that maybe even thinks it is a calculable risk using them).




well there is supposed be a ceasefire coming soon so lets hope they get it figured out .
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lakevixen wrote: only problem with your theory is putin is backing the so called leader of syria , while there is some truth to the fact that isis is getting weapons from us backed troops that cave and run when isis comes knocking . saudis behead more people in a day than isis does in a year . is putin trying to ethnically cleans any race? is he building ovens anywhere? are american space astronauts not getting rides on russian rockets? ukraine is a side attraction for the americans and russians , but nothing to be overly concerned about


Problem is Putin is scared *bleep* of ISIS - they have threatened Dagestan, Chechnya, and could possibly radicalize the Crimean Tartars. Putin's calculus is that - ok, we will help you, in exchange for not entering Russia. The Saudis began to dump oil in retaliation for Putin arming the Assad regime - thus now he can turn to a new unlikely enemy - ISIS. Overthrow the Saudi Royal family, now ISIS and Russia control the price of oil.

Putin's ambitions are to re-build the Soviet sphere of influence. Watch carefully the events - a bill before the state Duma recognizing the re-unification of Germany as illegal. Putin creates a distraction, and then he begins to re-take the soviet sphere of influence. Putin hates Jews, and Crimean Tartars. Ukraine is the powder keg to a much larger conflict.
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SheilaO wrote:Minsk agreement - remember Munich agreement with Hitler on September 30, 1938? Pretty much the same deal - giving Putler control on Donbass. Remember the 1936 Summer Olympics - compare to Sochi 2014. Sudentenland = Crimea.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

Putler, like Hitler seeks to build alliances - with joint military drills with North Korea - like Hitler did with Mussolini. Psychopath Kim Jon-Un meets sociopath Putin

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-plans-jo ... uba-303836

Then North Korea invades South Korea... nice - Russians now don't have to worry about their Samsung being embargoed.

Next, America is fighting in Korea... Putin arms ISIS, ISIS takes over the middle east... ISIS overthrows the Saudi Royal Family, now Russia controls world oil prices... delicious

Next, ISIS attacks Israel. Israel goes nuclear... scrumptious

Next... Putler finances terrorist acts through ISIS - and invades former eastern bloc countries.

Putin is a dangerous and unpredictable man, with an agenda of his own.


And like any good game of Risk it will probably be decided in Australia. :)
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I share the fear that what is happening in Ukraine could well lead to a wider conflict. And, bad as the war with ISIS is, I think war in Europe would be a much more serious problem for the rest of the world.
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Considering that... Russian backed separatists were uncovered by Latvian police for trying to create a separatist state called Latgale People's republic.

Latvia being NATO, means any type of insurrection that the Latvian army and policy cannot quell, would invoke article 5 of the NATO charter - meaning a war in Europe has begun.
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What Russia needs:

1. Convene an extraordinary meeting of the UN General assembly, table a resolution stripping the Russian Federation of its veto power in the UN security council. Such a motion would require a 2/3 majority.

2. Strip Russia of its hosting rights of the 2018 FIFA world cup.

3. Unplug Russia from the SWIFT banking system.

4. Unplug Russia from Visa and Mastercard
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