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Static wrote:Human shields, grenade throwing ladaladala....Israel is guilty of it all too.


Really? Ok. A total load of utter BS, but ok.

Let's get back to my main point. Why is the Vatican supporting the PLO and Hamas, when they can't guarantee the safety of Christians living in these areas? Rather than rushing to join the leftists on this issue, why not negotiate some kind of deal for the people they are supposed to be representing? I don't get it.
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With the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Jerusalem became once more the capital of a sovereign Jewish state. Throughout the millennia of its existence, Jerusalem has never been the capital of any other sovereign nation.

Jerusalem has stood at the center of the Jewish people's national and spiritual life since King David made it the capital of his kingdom in 1003 BCE. The city remained the capital of the Davidic dynasty for 400 years, until the kingdom was conquered by the Babylonians. Following the return from the Babylonian exile in 538 BCE, Jerusalem again served as the capital of the Jewish people in its land for the next five and a half centuries.

The Christian link with Jerusalem is essentially a religious one. Except for the short-lived Crusader kingdom, it has not assumed political or secular connotations. During the six centuries of Roman and Byzantine rule, Caesarea, not Jerusalem, was the capital.

During Muslim rule over the city, whether Arab or non-Arab, Jerusalem was never made the political capital of a Muslim entity or even a province within the Muslim empire. Under Muslim Arab rule (638 - 1099) by the Umayyad, the Abbasid and the Fatamid caliphs, Jerusalem was ruled from Damascus, Baghdad and Cairo respectively. In the eighth century, the city of Ramia was made the capital of the district which embraced Jerusalem.

During the period of Mamluk rule (1250- 1516), the Land was ruled from Damascus; in Ottoman times (1517 - 1917), from Constantinople.

From 1948 to 1967, Jerusalem was a city divided as a result of a war thrust upon her. For nineteen years, concrete walls and barbed wire sealed off one part of the city from the other. Its eastern section, including the Old City, was annexed by Jordan, and ruled from its capital, Amman. The western sector of Jerusalem became Israel's capital.

Following another war in June 1967, Jerusalem was reunited. The barriers dividing the city were demolished, the gates of the Old City were opened to people of all faiths, and the eastern sector was reintegrated into the nation's capital.

In July 1980 the Knesset passed the Basic Law - Jerusalem, which restated Israel's rights and obligations concerning the capital. The Law affirmed that the holy places of all religions be protected from desecration, free access to them be guaranteed, and the Government provide for the development and the prosperity of the city and the well-being of its inhabitants.

Under British rule (1922-1948), Jerusalem was the seat of the High Commissioner and most administrative offices of the Mandate, as well as of the central institutions of the growing Jewish community.

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All major encyclopedias (Columbia, Britannica, World Book) and dictionaries (Merriam-Webster, Random House, American Heritage) list Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

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Israel has managed to have secret nuclear weapons and threaten their neighbours with them while flipping the bird to the world for decades while they build illegal settlements and cry for help for protection from the prisoners of their illegal actions that they keep behind walls.

The fact they can rewrite maps and encyclopedias is the least of their achievements concerning the deception they impose on the planet. Most US maps don't even show Palestine or the Gaza strip and the Israeli government has gone to great lengths to achieve that.

Pretty hypocritical for a country to expend energy, money and international political and business influence to remove a nation from a map and prevent them from nationhood while they justify killing thousands of civilians under the war cry of "they don't recognize our right to exist".

Also, while a bunch of books may say something - Israel's only ally still refuses to call Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

http://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-s ... row-340866

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday struck down a law that would let American citizens born in Jerusalem have Israel listed in passports as their country of birth, saying it encroached on the president's exclusive power to recognize foreign governments.

The 6-3 ruling, a victory for President Barack Obama, comes at a time of strained relations between Israel and the United States, the Jewish state's most important ally. The Obama administration had said if the law were enforced it would have caused "irreversible damage" to America's ability to influence the region's peace process and reversed long-standing American policy not to recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel
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Please Isreal, you tell those US clowns where to stick it before the next vote in the UN. Pretty please.
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lol i have always said people never learn from history , israel has done great job at being like nazi germany the way they treat who they dnt like . but then again the old testement is fillled with murder and hate
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lakevixen wrote: israel has done great job at being like nazi germany


Wow. Just wow.

The main reason Israel has not only survived but thrived is that its opponents are either self-detonating, rocket-launching, child-murdering death cultists, or extremely dumb leftists. If you can provide security against the nutcases trying to kill you, then the dumb leftists really are no issue.
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Looks like another French guy has stepped on his junk trying to be a "cool" leftist on the Palestinian issue...good job guy...

Orange's Stephane Richard tells Israel of regret over comments
The head of French telecom giant Orange has said he deeply regrets the controversy following comments he made last week indicating he wanted the company to pull out of Israel.

Orange CEO Stephane Richard went to Jerusalem and met PM Benjamin Netanyahu to "clear up the confusion".

He had earlier said he wanted to end an agreement with an Israeli partner which operates in the occupied West Bank.

The comments were strongly criticised in Israel as supporting a boycott.

"It's no secret that what you said last week was interpreted by many as an attack on Israel," Mr Netanyahu told Mr Richard on Friday.

The prime minister said his government sought "real and secure peace with our neighbours the Palestinians", but that could not be achieved "by boycotts or threats of boycotts".

Reuters and the Times of Israel reported that Mr Netanyahu had instructed the Israeli ambassador to Paris not to accept a request by Mr Richard to meet in France.

Mr Richard said his comments had been taken out of context.

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"I have been profoundly and personally distressed to observe the results of the misunderstanding and the distortion of my recent statements," said Mr Richard.

"I deeply regret the impact resulting from the context and interpretation of those statements."

The CEO had said in a meeting in Cairo last week that he would pull out of Israel "tomorrow morning" if contracts allowed, adding it was important to build trust with Arab countries.

Orange's Israeli affiliate, Partner Communications, controls close to 28% of Israel's mobile market.

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign group - that Israel says works to "delegitimise" the state of Israel - had also previously called on Orange to sever its ties with Partner because of work it carries out in settlements.

Israel's settlements in the occupied territories are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

The French government has a 13.45% stake in Orange. Last week French President Francois Hollande said he did not support a boycott of Israel and wanted to improve ties between the two countries.


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Boycott Israel? Yes! Iran, Sudan? Nah

WATCH: Israel boycotters in Ireland filmed agreeing to do business with human rights violators Sudan, North Korea and Iran

An American Jewish reporter secretly filmed three Irish retailers who boycott Israeli products agreeing to do business with Sudan, Iran and North Korea.

The segment aired by Fox News Thursday shows Ami Horowitz speaking to business owners in Ireland while posing as a sales agent for firms that he presents as not being comfortable selling to retailers who also offer Israeli products.

In his conversations, Horowitz emphasizes almost comically the human rights’ abuses of the regimes he purportedly represents. None of his comments elicit any kind of adverse reactions from the potential buyers.

In a conversation with one Irish retailer in the food industry, Horowitz said he was representing a Sudanese chocolate maker. Confirming he has no moral objections to working with firms from Sudan, where the government has been accused of genocide, the retailer assured Horowitz his firm does not deal in Israel products.

“Oh, we don’t,” said the retailer, who was not identified by name but whose face was in the footage, when asked whether his store sells Israeli products. “We have a pro-Palestinian policy.”

The retailer remains unfazed when Horowitz tells him that Sudan is “well known for stoning women and gay people, but it’s so great that people can get past that.” He then adds that his company is “herbicide-free, pesticide-free, Jew-free.”

Another retailer confirmed he does not object to buying products from North Korea, a totalitarian state where hundreds of thousands are believed to have perished in gulags. Asked about Israel, he said “We don’t do any business with Israel” and pointed to a sign on his door that read “boycott apartheid Israel” and “apartheid-free zone.”

The products, Horowitz tells the retailers, are “made by our ‘guest workers’,” he says, as subtitles add he was making a gesture of quotation marks upon saying the phrase “guest workers.” The products are “all handmade, these are all former artisans.. pre-internment.” Horowitz then adds that his company is “happy to charge such a low price” because “gulag workers are making this and so we pass the savings on to you.”

The third retailer, whom Horowitz told he was representing an Iranian organic farm, said: “We have an embargo, we don’t do any Israeli business.” Horowitz then said: “I assume you guys have no cultural, political issue with working with Iran.”

She then replied: “No, no,” adding: “Send some information, prices and whatever you have and we’ll have a look over it.”

Horowitz told the retailer: “We have workers/political prisoners, who have among the lowest water usage rates in the world. We’re very proud of that. No electricity, very little water, really, our workers have almost no carbon footprint.”


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and canada the yanks do it with saudi and china whats your point
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obviously it says a lot about the poorly disguised motives of the self deceived Israel haters...


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the only people who hate israel is their goverment . why they continualy want to become like the american gop/teaparty is baffaling
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lakevixen wrote:... israel has done great job at being like nazi germany ...
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Yeah man! That totally explains why the Soup Nazi likes it there so much...





I wonder if he's tried the "special" Matzah
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unclemarty wrote:BTW
All major encyclopedias (Columbia, Britannica, World Book) and dictionaries (Merriam-Webster, Random House, American Heritage) list Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

http://www.jerusalemshots.com/en



lol...of course they do.
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what it explains is why bibi wants to make preemptive strike on iran , when the rest of the world is trying to get iran back into fold .they do have oil ya know :)
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