Iran and USA deal done

[maryjane48]

President Obama on Wednesday staunchly defended the newly struck Iran nuclear deal, using a press conference to lecture critics and assembled media on the agreement -- even admonishing a reporter who questioned his resolve on U.S. prisoners left behind that "you should know better."

The president met the press as his national security team, and Vice President Biden, began to lobby skeptical lawmakers in Congress to back the agreement. Obama already faces bipartisan resistance to the deal, but on Wednesday challenged critics to present an alternative.

"I'm hearing a lot of talking points being repeated about 'this is a bad deal,'" Obama complained, speaking at the White House.

He said he doesn't expect Republicans to get behind the deal, but asked of critics, "What is your alternative?" Obama claimed the alternative is war.

Republicans aren't the only ones objecting to the deal; several influential Democrats have openly voiced skepticism over key elements. But Obama, entertaining a range of different scenarios, said without a deal there would be "no limits" on Iran's nuclear program and the country "could move closer to a nuclear bomb."

With the deal, he said, "we cut off every single one of Iran's pathways to a nuclear program."

The president later took umbrage when CBS News reporter Major Garrett asked why he is "content" the freedom of American prisoners held in Iran was not secured, despite their cases apparently being raised.

"The notion that I am content, as I celebrate, with American citizens languishing in Iranian jails -- Major, that's nonsense, and you should know better," Obama said, adding: "I've met with the families of some of those folks, and nobody's content."

The president said teams are working "diligently" to free them, but said tying their freedom to negotiations could create an incentive for Iran to use American prisoners as leverage for concessions.

Obama also acknowledged there will still be "problems with Iran's sponsorship of terrorism" and other issues -- but said to oppose this deal because it doesn't resolve all those issues "defies logic. It makes no sense."

The press conference comes one day after the U.S. and five other world powers sealed the long-sought -- and controversial -- nuclear deal with Iran.

The agreement would curb Tehran's nuclear program in exchange for valuable sanctions relief. While the United Nations will take care of implementing parts of the deal, the administration still is seeking approval from Congress. Republicans, and some Democrats, are concerned the deal legitimizes Iran's nuclear program and gives them too much in return for tightening up the possible paths to a bomb.

But Obama argues the deal is far better than the alternative and on Tuesday, he threatened to veto any attempt to block the international agreement.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07 ... lear-deal/

[sobrohusfat]

President Barack Obama sought to calm concerns Wednesday that Iran would have to be notified 24 days in advance of an inspection under the nuclear deal reached Tuesday.

Yeah - good one.

Give me 24 days notice to prepare in advance of your "surprise" visit and i guarantee that by the time you leave i'll have you believing that i'm a homosexual female muslim dwarf.

[maryjane48]

lol like bibi said israel not bound by the deal , but what his plan? attack iran? let us know how that works out for you .i almost fell out my chair laughing when bibi said he is going to join forces with the saudis, the ones that backed bin laden lmao

[maryjane48]

Both Mr Rouhani and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif referred to the dispute over Iran's nuclear programme as an "unnecessary crisis".
Mr Zarif said the deal was "not perfect for anybody'', but that it was the "best achievement possible that could be reached".
Mr Obama, who is trying to persuade a sceptical US Congress of the benefits, said it would oblige Iran to:
remove two-thirds of installed centrifuges and store them under international supervision
get rid of 98% of its enriched uranium
accept that sanctions would be rapidly restored if the deal was violated
permanently give the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) access "where necessary when necessary"
Sanctions relief would be gradual, Mr Obama said, with an arms embargo remaining in place for five years and an embargo on missiles for eight years.
Separately, the IAEA and Iran said they had signed a roadmap to resolve outstanding issues.
IAEA head Yukiya Amano told reporters in Vienna, Austria, that his organisation had signed a roadmap "for the clarification of past and present outstanding issues regarding Iran's nuclear programme".
He called the agreement a "significant step forward", saying it would allow the agency to "make an assessment of issues relating to possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear programme by the end of 2015".

[sobrohusfat]

lol ... lmao

I guess we'll see.

[maryjane48]

i bet you and bibi haven't even read the deal yet , or faced the reality the other countries with the sanctions were going to drop the sanctions regardless

[Thinktank]

[Thinktank]

I wonder if Israel will allow inspections now?

[Atomoa]

Stephen Harper is left in the awkward position of having to support Israel, even if it means a more dangerous world and not supporting it's allies.

We do a 15 billion dollars arms deal with the Saudis - the number one exporter of terrorism and human rights abuses in the world - and we can't agree to this deal with Iran?

Gotta get that Toronto Jewish vote! This is why we lost our seat in the UN. Stephen Harper cannot be trusted on the world stage.

[Thinktank]

Stephen Harper cannot be trusted on the world stage.

Several years ago I think it was Peter Mansbridge who interviewed Stephen Harper - on Iran -
Harper said exactly what he was told to say.

BIGGEST
WARMONGER
EVER


I wouldn't trust him as much as I would trust a rattle snake.

[Atomoa]

If sanctions are lifted on Iran, they turn the oil taps on.

It's being reported that this could flood the oil market even more which would potentially drive oil prices down another 20-30%

Ensuring high oil prices - Stephen Harper is willing to make the world a less safe place to live in order to win this election.

[sobrohusfat]

...support for Israel means a more dangerous world...

Interesting that honest Arabs strongly disagree with your twisted BS:

Will Israel save the world a third time?

As a Jordanian-Palestinian politician, I and many other Arab politicians and decision-makers have come to learn that Israel is vital for our own existence. In fact, Israel has saved us, and the world, from [at least] two global disasters.

The first time Israel saved us all was at the beginning of the 1980s, when Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was one of the West's strongest Arab allies. He was against the Islamic Republic of Iran and was viewed as a necessary asset for Western governments and as a regional balance against Iran's might. The West was in love with Saddam to the point of allowing him a nuclear program, which he obtained with France's help.

Just as Iran does today, Saddam said his nuclear program was for "peaceful and civilian use." Saddam's nuclear reactor was built with the approval of the United States. Israel, however, did not buy Saddam's claims, and in 1981 sent its pilots on a mission -- which they were unlikely to return from -- to destroy Saddam's nuclear reactor. As reports confirmed, then-Vice President George H.W. Bush was enraged by Israel's actions while President Ronald Reagan's first reaction to the news was, "Boys will be boys." Arab and Western governments condemned Israel's strike and some even spoke of action at the U.N. Unsurprisingly, Western media outlets grilled Israel.

Just nine years later, Saddam occupied Kuwait, threatened the entire Gulf region, and openly spoke of controlling "the Arabs' oil wealth," which could have brought the West to its knees. The U.S. and many Western states had to risk blood and money to get Saddam out of Kuwait, but they did not fear a nuclear attack from him or that he might use dirty bombs. Therefore Operation Desert Storm went smoothly. Had Saddam still had his nuclear program, the entire situation and its outcome could have been different. In fact, Saddam might have stayed in power until today were it not for Israel taking the risk of destroying his nuclear program.

In short, Israel saved the world from a power freak who came close to getting nuclear weapons.

That was not the only time Israel saved the world. Another Arab dictator, Bashar Assad, had a secret nuclear program and built a reactor with the help of North Korea. While many governments were still not sure the program even existed, Israel did not waste any time. Israeli jets reportedly bombed Assad's reactor in 2007, reducing it to rubble. There were also reports that some North Korean and Iranian nuclear scientists were killed in the attack.

While the world did not exactly condemn the move, many saw it as uncalled for because Assad was closely cooperating with the U.S. on fighting al-Qaida in Iraq and had caught several terrorists and handed them over to U.S. forces. Many Western governments viewed Assad as an ally, just has they did Saddam.

Barely four years later, a civil war erupted in Syria and the country quickly turned into an Islamist stronghold, with territory split between the Islamists -- mainly the Islamic State group and the Nusra Front -- and Assad. Both Assad and the Islamists butcher civilians. Assad used chemical weapons to kill Syrian civilians in 2013.

Let's think: Assad butchers his own people, including women and children. Would he have been reluctant to threaten the world with nuclear weapons had his nuclear program not been destroyed? Also, given Syria's large area, would Assad have hesitated to use a nuclear weapon on one or two Syrian cities to silence the rebels? Basically, Israel saved the world and the Syrian people from a bloodthirsty dictator.

What is most interesting is the fact that Assad's nuclear reactor was in Deir el-Zour, in northeastern Syria, which fell in the hands of the Islamists quickly after the civil war began. Can we imagine what those Islamists could have done with a nuclear reactor? They would have threatened the rest of Syria, neighboring countries (including Turkey), and the West with at least dirty bombs, if not something more advanced.

Today, the U.S. has reached a deal with Iran about its nuclear program. On paper and in theory, the deal could pass with many observers as acceptable and even fair to all parties. Such observers do not understand what Israel understands very well: Not only is Iran ruled by Shiite Islamist radicals who will not keep their word, but if Iran gets the bomb, it will be the only nuclear power that would not fear the consequences of launching a nuclear attack on any country, even the U.S. If Iran attacks any country with nuclear weapons, and that country responds in kind, Iran could not care less; its leaders want to die as martyrs, go to heaven, and meet the virgins.

While North Korea's dictator is ruthless, inhumane and even crazy, he won't launch nuclear attacks on a whim because he knows there would be counterattacks. He does not want to die or lose the country he rules. On the other hand, a collective martyrdom of the entire Iranian nation might be exactly what Iran's mullah leaders are looking for. Therefore, they will press the button at the right time.

Iran's leaders might even seek the end of the entire planet through using nuclear weapons to fulfill their vision of the "returning Shiite Messiah, al-Mahdi, who would return only after a global disaster." This is what Israel knows about Iran's ideology and most others do not.

Will Israel take the initiative to save the world a third time, possibly by destroying Iran's nuclear program? We cannot tell nor even suggest that should happen. Nonetheless, if Israel does not do anything and Iran begins threatening the world with nuclear weapons someday, those demonizing Israel, boycotting it and labeling it as an evil state today will wish they had supported it instead.

Very difficult times are ahead, and Israel is embodying the Palestinian Arab proverb, "What good does your mind do you if everyone around you has gone mad?"

Mudar Zahran is a Jordanian-Palestinian

[maryjane48]

there was never going to be a perfect deal . the sanctions were going to be lifted regardless of deal or not . europe wants to do commerce with iran

[sobrohusfat]

"The Obama administration has collapsed on nearly every condition that constitutes a good deal: no dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program, no sunset clause, no anytime, anywhere inspections, no curbing of Iran's ballistic missile program, no continuation of the arms embargo and no confronting Iran's sponsorship of terror.

...

Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia, the linchpin of nuclear nonproliferation policy, remains unpersuaded that the deal blocks Iran's path to a bomb, which is why it is pondering its own program.

The kingdom will move to purchase a nuclear bomb off the shelf from Pakistan the moment Iran is inevitably perceived to have the bomb, prompting a cascade of nuclear proliferators in its wake.

At that point, Iran will almost certainly shed its P5+1 obligations and match the Saudis tit-for-tat."
Joseph Raskas


Oh well, as long as Netanyahu and his band of evil Zionists don't like it - it must be good news.

..."What good does your mind do you if everyone around you has gone mad?"

[maryjane48]

try reading the deal. there will be 98 percent of centerfuges destroyed . the plutonium is shut down. all known military sites will be inspected . and if they come acroos a site they think should be inspected theres a path go get them inspected to .the saudis are as crazy as anyother group there so if they are going to use this deal as excuse to get a nuke then they were going to anyways . because israel managed to sneak nukes to . there was never going to be a deal curbing irans proxie armys , there was never going to be a deal to free those hostages . the whole point was to prevent iran from going straight to the abomb . if israel wants to take on iran fly at it , but why should americans or anyone else die because of bibi delusions ?im more concerned with what russia is up to myself . they have nukes and they would use them