Another School Shooting

[maryjane48]

they just said on tv that since obama been prez , he has had to give speeches 15 times . thats way to many

[dogbreath]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY
I doubt gun grabbers will even understand this concept.


[youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY&noredirect=1[/youtube]

[maryjane48]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY
I doubt gun grabbers will even understand this concept.

if you take the s out after http the vid will show up



and if you highlight it with youtube link thing we can watch right here as long its not a nsfw

[dogbreath]

if you take the s out after http the vid will show up

and if you highlight it with youtube link thing we can watch right here as long its not a nsfw

I tried several variations pf what you suggested but still no luck... Thanks for the tips though:-) Ill try a few more.

[Captain Awesome]

You missed "www" part. it has to be exact address in a format:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDdNPvYaes

including http (not https), "www", and so on. You can't use shortened versions.

[Omnitheo]

All guns should be licensed and insured.

We do that with cars, it's the least that can be done with guns. You want to own 10 guns? You get to pay for insurance for all 10.

Police officers should be able to stop check people the same way they do with cars, and if they do not have valid registration, licensing and insurance for the gun, it can be confiscated and the holder fined. The same as cars.

See people try to make the comparison between cars and guns all the time "well cars can kill people"
And that's true, however cars primary function is a transportation tool, not a murder tool. The centre for disease control now says that more people die of gun violence in the US than traffic accidents. There are currently plans throughout the country both by municipalities and auto manufacturers to try and bring traffic fatalities down to zero. If we can make this effort with cars, something can be done about guns.

Someone earlier in this topic quoted someone talking about tragedies. "This isn't the time to discuss this. Shame on those who politicize it"

What are we supposed to do? Close our eyes to the world. Like Obama says, this has become routine. It's the same thing over and over and over. How long do you wait after a tragedy to discuss it? How long do you have before next tragedy. This happens every single day! A mass shooting every single week! A school or church or theatre shooting every month.

It's not a tragedy anymore. It's a statistic.

Why would anyone want to censor a conversation on this? If a country drops a bomb on us, should we not politicize it because it's a tragedy? If health and safety cuts lead to a massive outbreak of disease that kills thousands of people, should it not be politicized because it's a tragedy? How long did we wait to politicize the Boston marathon bombing? An entire city was put under martial law to track down someone that killed 2 people. The government monitors search results looking for people trying to make home built bombs. They've even made pressure cooker bombs "illegal" and they don't even kill 10 people a year. Just what exactly do you think the role of government is? How can any responsible administration turn a blind eye and disregard thousands of their citizens dying every year.

If the US can ban kinder surprise eggs nationwide because there's the possibility that a child could throw the whole thing in their mouth and choke on a plastic capsule, then perhaps something can be done about guns which kill hundreds of children a year.

And then there's the "you don't need guns to kill people." That's true, but without guns, tragedies on this scale couldn't happen. he could have maybe waited in the parking lot after school and run down his teacher or some students, but 10 people wouldn't have died. He could have brought a knife and stabbed some people. 10 people wouldn't have died.

[oneh2obabe]

https works fine ... link shown both ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY

[Glacier]

http://americangunfacts.com/

[dogbreath]

All guns should be licensed and insured.

If you honestly believe licensing and insuring guns will stop shootings by deranged lunatics you are part of the problem.

[whatwhat]

If you honestly believe licensing and insuring guns will stop shootings by deranged lunatics you are part of the problem.

How does that make them part of the problem??

[dogbreath]

How does that make them part of the problem??

By throwing up a red herring and distracting from the real problem of mental health issues.

[Madhue]

If you honestly believe licensing and insuring guns will stop shootings by deranged lunatics you are part of the problem.

Agreed the suggestion of something being licensed or insured as a deterrent for nefarious reasons is ludicrous. The issue is not about firearms. Gun controls will not prevent mass killings. We simply do not live in a society where we are safe from those that wish us harm. We need to accept that.

[JLives]

By throwing up a red herring and distracting from the real problem of mental health issues.

The majority of mass shootings are committed by people without mental issues though.

[whatwhat]

By throwing up a red herring and distracting from the real problem of mental health issues.

Almost all school shooting occur by white males. So if we are going to use the Mental Illness reasoning behind them, why aren't mentally ill women shooting up schools? Why aren't people of different races shooting up schools? Obviously mental illness does play a big role in our society, and should be properly funded. But there has to be more then just mental illness, especially when school shootings occur in such a small demographic.

[dogbreath]

The majority of mass shootings are committed by people without mental issues though.

Wow!!! You cant possibly believe that can you?