Bayer to buy Monsanto... VERY bad news

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I don't appreciate GMO on the grounds that we humans NEVER make things better in the big picture or long run.

It's always a little tweak here and a wee tweak there. It's always in the name of making things bigger and faster.
I'd prefer things left natural. The real results from these changes are seldom seen in short terms. It takes years for us to see the enormity of the error.
In this case, it could be naturally occurring resistance, much like the heritage seeds passed won for thousands of years in Iraq.
It's now illegal for farmers to hold seeds from last year, or to trade within the community of farmers. This kind of control over food is something to be feared greatly, not just allowed to pass by without notice.

GMO may be justifiable in today's markets with today's methods to prove its worth, but mother nature trumps all in time, and the end result may be our own demise on account of fools leading the show and fools following them.

I'm no fool.
GMO is not the right way to do things.
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http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#175930

From the same article:

Consumers could benefit from more-affordable and healthier food options as well as the companies' using their expertise to help farmers limit their chemical use and environmental impact, company executives said Wednesday after the all-cash deal was announced.


They're not accepted in Europe due to health concerns, so Monsanto sells little in Bayer's backyard.


Too bad they go on about the first one and save the second one as a tiny blurb on the last paragraph with no elaboration.
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More from another article:

"The overlaps are minimal," Grant told reporters on a conference call. He said the deal "represented the most compelling value for our shareholders."

Bayer and Monsanto executives said they won't identify areas of business overlap before regulators in the EU, U.S., Canada, Brazil and two dozen other countries review the acquisition for potential antitrust issues. Bayer said it's so confident of approval that it's offered Monsanto a $2 billion breakup fee if the deal falls through.

Bayer and Monsanto executives wouldn't discuss the fate of the Monsanto name, but said the combined company's seeds and North American business will have headquarters at Monsanto's St. Louis base.

The companies also wouldn't discuss possible job cuts. Those are standard after big mergers and implied in this one, given that 80 percent of the $1.5 billion in synergies the companies predict after three years will be cost cuts in administration, sales and marketing.

Bayer said the trans-Atlantic tie-up should close before the end of 2017. Monsanto plans a shareholder vote on the deal in a few months.

In U.S. trading, shares of both companies closed up 0.6 percent, with Bayer at $104.85 and Monsanto at $106.76.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/bay ... l-ag-giant
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http://seattleorganicrestaurants.com/ve ... -drugs.php

Why anyone would want lying mass murderers to control their food is beyond me. One example from this link:

The drug Trasylol was on the market for more than 14 years and was banned in 2006 after it contributed to thousands of deaths in patients every single month. Bayer that aggressively marketed Trasylol as safe made billions of dollars on pure profit until a 2006 study showed widespread deaths associated with Trasylol.

After the major study revealed a direct link between Trasylol and death, it took FDA and Bayer almost two years to take the drug off of the market. Later on it was revealed that Bayer had buried evidence of Trasylol severe side effects that did cost one thousands lives a month.

- See more at: http://seattleorganicrestaurants.com/ve ... 6EtEQ.dpuf
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... and the man at the helm who wants to control what you eat and what meds you take really cares about the people:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tment.html

The CEO of phamaceutical giant Bayer has sparked fury after announcing one of the firm's drugs was for 'western patients who can afford it'.
Marijn Dekkers made the inflammatory comments after the Indian company Natco Pharma Ltd. were granted a government licence to produce a copy of Bayer’s cancer drug Nexavar which they will sell for 97 per cent less than the original product.
Under Indian law the government grants compulsory licenses to domestic firms to produce copies of drugs if the original isn’t available locally at a reasonable price, regardless of whether they are under patent.
Mr Deekers, who has previously described India's patent laws as 'essentially theft', said: 'We did not develop this medicine for Indians. We developed it for western patients who can afford it.'

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How is it that a company that has knowingly killed thousands for profit and has a very corrupt track-record is not only allowed to stay in business, but can also take control of another business with a corrupt, murderous track record. What's scary is when this business supplies your food and meds. What's even scarier is how many people will defend them because of the meds they supply that help. Kind of like if you're helpful around your community but kill an innocent person it should be okay because of all the help you do.
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Not like that at all. There are laws to be upheld and charges have been laid. Corporations have different divisions and factories so bring the right people to justice and let those that want to help do so. They aren't one individual.

Monsanto is still on track to become part of Bayer AG by the end of the year, but in the meantime it is business as usual and that business continues to expand to offer more solutions for farmers.

http://agwired.com/2017/01/09/monsanto- ... er-merger/
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Fancy wrote:Not like that at all. There are laws to be upheld and charges have been laid. Corporations have different divisions and factories so bring the right people to justice and let those that want to help do so. They aren't one individual.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-thousand-lives-a-month/

For knowingly being responsible for a thousand deaths per month for 2 years for profit, here's what's happening:

The company has agreed to settlement deals in about 200 of 2,000 pending cases, The Legal Intelligencer reports.


"After consideration of the facts of each individual case, Bayer will consider the option of settling individual lawsuits, without admission of liability, on a case-by-case basis."


Like I was saying...
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2 Bayer employees were suspended and did the FDA proceed? This link was from 2008.
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Fancy wrote:2 Bayer employees were suspended and did the FDA proceed? This link was from 2008.


That's a pretty harsh penalty for killing that many people. I'll bet they won't try that again!
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Next thing you know they'll try to buy a clothing manufacturer and an airline. Then they can spray their chemtrails, poison our food, treat us with meds AND provide our tin foil hats!
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slootman wrote:Next thing you know they'll try to buy a clothing manufacturer and an airline. Then they can spray their chemtrails, poison our food, treat us with meds AND provide our tin foil hats!


What's even scarier is how many people will defend them
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zzontar wrote:
slootman wrote:Next thing you know they'll try to buy a clothing manufacturer and an airline. Then they can spray their chemtrails, poison our food, treat us with meds AND provide our tin foil hats!


What's even scarier is how many people will defend them


Where did I defend them? Don't worry I'm sure you'll be able to get a tinfoil hat from somewhere else.
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:200: Back on topic please! Thanks!
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