Omar Mateen identified himself as an Islamic soldier
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Rosemary1 wrote:Another crazy American with issues that people like Trump are capitalizing on to advance their political and racist stance. Mateen allegedly researched a number of extremist groups before settling on ISIS.
Which other extremist groups did he research?
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<snip> During three calls with 911 dispatchers, Mateen not only professed allegiance to ISIS but also expressed solidarity with a suicide bomber from the Syrian rebel group Nusra Front, and a few years ago he claimed connections to Hezbollah, too — both ISIS enemies, according to Comey. <snip>
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Ah, those are all Islamic ones. I was assuming by Rosemary's post that he was not motivated by Islamic Jihadist doctrine when in fact he was.
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Omar was a registered Democrat according to state voter records, and also possessed a concealed carry license. [9] [11] [19] Right before the shooting, he called 911 and pledged allegiance to ISIS [32]
Omar also ran a religious non-profit called The Durand Jirga, Inc. with his dad Mir Seddique. He hails from Port St. Lucie, Florida and was born to Afghan parents. [3] [2] Omar's dad was affiliated with the Taliban.
One former co-worker Daniel Gilroy, said that Omar was unhinged, said hateful things, and talked about killing people. He also said that Omar stalked and harassed him by sending over 30 phone and text messages a day. Daniel alleges that even after he told superiors at G4S about Omar's behavior no action was taken since Omar was Muslim, and that he had to quit since he couldn't take the abuse. Another co-worker Eric Baumer said that “He (Omar) had bad things to say about everybody—blacks, Jews, gays, a lot of politicians, our soldiers. He had a lot of hate in him. He told me America destroyed Afghanistan.
Many believe that a speech Dr. Farrokh Sekaleshfar gave in a lecture at the Husseini Islamic Center - Sanford, Florida saying all gays must die may have motivated Omar Mateen to commit the Pulse Orlando Shooting (2016). [37]
Following the incident Twitter accounts associated with ISIS tweeted "#OrlandoIsBurning" - the trademark phrase for ISIS claiming responsibility for attacks. [30] ISIS also had threatened to target Florida 3 days before the attack.
Omar was a registered Democrat according to state voter records, and also possessed a concealed carry license. [9] [11] [19] Right before the shooting, he called 911 and pledged allegiance to ISIS [32]
Omar also ran a religious non-profit called The Durand Jirga, Inc. with his dad Mir Seddique. He hails from Port St. Lucie, Florida and was born to Afghan parents. [3] [2] Omar's dad was affiliated with the Taliban.
One former co-worker Daniel Gilroy, said that Omar was unhinged, said hateful things, and talked about killing people. He also said that Omar stalked and harassed him by sending over 30 phone and text messages a day. Daniel alleges that even after he told superiors at G4S about Omar's behavior no action was taken since Omar was Muslim, and that he had to quit since he couldn't take the abuse. Another co-worker Eric Baumer said that “He (Omar) had bad things to say about everybody—blacks, Jews, gays, a lot of politicians, our soldiers. He had a lot of hate in him. He told me America destroyed Afghanistan.
Many believe that a speech Dr. Farrokh Sekaleshfar gave in a lecture at the Husseini Islamic Center - Sanford, Florida saying all gays must die may have motivated Omar Mateen to commit the Pulse Orlando Shooting (2016). [37]
Following the incident Twitter accounts associated with ISIS tweeted "#OrlandoIsBurning" - the trademark phrase for ISIS claiming responsibility for attacks. [30] ISIS also had threatened to target Florida 3 days before the attack.
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Glacier wrote:Ah, those are all Islamic ones. I was assuming by Rosemary's post that he was not motivated by Islamic Jihadist doctrine when in fact he was.
Since he was American-born and lived in an area of the US known for right-wing extremism and insane gun nutterism, it was more likely he was motivated by the radical right doctrine. This radicalism is as close as Fox News or The Daily Caller or a thousand other places that seek to instill hateful right-wing values in unstable individuals.
Also keep in mind that his act resembled much more closely the lone gunman attacks of other recent right-wing terrorists in the US, and not so much the highly organized attacks in Paris and Brussels.
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Here is something from Juan Cole, an American academic on the Middle East, who is also not an insane person on Everipedia.
http://www.juancole.com/2016/06/rightwi ... orism.html
I'm sure if some evidence turns up to indicate that this shooter was anything other than an unbalanced, racist homophobe who had access to a large number of weapons, people will change their minds. Unfortunately, youtube videos and rants on Everipedia are not evidence. They are unhinged conspiracy theories.
Shootings like Orlando that hit “soft targets” such as restaurants or nightclubs are not a form of classical strategic terrorism. Serious terrorist would hit military targets, e.g.–an act that might hope to degrade US security. Shooting down people at a nightclub has no obvious strategic goal. Such a goal is intrinsic to the tactic of terrorism, and its absence should cause us to question the use of the term.
What we know about Mateen so far doesn’t indicate that he was a member of a terrorist organization. If the authorities thought that he was, the crime would have been labeled international terrorism, not domestic.
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We know that a co-worker when he was employed as a security guard considered him unbalanced, racist and homophobic, and even left his position rather than continuing to have to work with him.
http://www.juancole.com/2016/06/rightwi ... orism.html
I'm sure if some evidence turns up to indicate that this shooter was anything other than an unbalanced, racist homophobe who had access to a large number of weapons, people will change their minds. Unfortunately, youtube videos and rants on Everipedia are not evidence. They are unhinged conspiracy theories.
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Partmanpartfish wrote:
Since he was American-born and lived in an area of the US known for right-wing extremism and insane gun nutterism, it was more likely he was motivated by the radical right doctrine.
Yes it was just a pure coincidence that he was Muslim. Not even worth mentioning. All registered Democrats are prone to being swayed by "right wing extremism", whatever that is, Muslim or not, and then go on to wipe out gay nightclubs. It's got to be right wing extremism. That's it. Turn off your brain and gulp down the leftist propaganda everyone.
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Partmanpartfish wrote:
I'm sure if some evidence turns up to indicate that this shooter was anything other than an unbalanced, racist homophobe who had access to a large number of weapons, people will change their minds. Unfortunately, youtube videos and rants on Everipedia are not evidence. They are unhinged conspiracy theories.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/orl ... ar-AAh9zJk
Gunman Omar Mateen exchanged texts with his wife while taking a break from his Orlando nightclub rampage, according to a report.
Mateen found other ways to pass the time. Before and during the massacre, Mateen posted a political rant on Facebook.
"America and Russia stop bombing the Islamic state," the gunman wrote, according to Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
"You kill innocent women and children by doing us airstrikes … now taste the Islamic state vengeance."
Then he posted a final warning.
''In the next few days you will see attacks from the Islamic state in the usa."
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In spite of about 10 people explaining this, some people don't get it still.
Crazy people like Mateen say crazy things. There is still no evidence that he was connected to terrorist groups, and his claims were more likely a ruse to hide his closeted homosexuality and gay Hispanic lover problems.
Taking the claims of a crazy person at face value is ridiculous.
Crazy people like Mateen say crazy things. There is still no evidence that he was connected to terrorist groups, and his claims were more likely a ruse to hide his closeted homosexuality and gay Hispanic lover problems.
Taking the claims of a crazy person at face value is ridiculous.
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Partmanpartfish wrote:In spite of about 10 people explaining this, some people don't get it still.
Crazy people like Mateen say crazy things. There is still no evidence that he was connected to terrorist groups, and his claims were more likely a ruse to hide his closeted homosexuality and gay Hispanic lover problems.
Taking the claims of a crazy person at face value is ridiculous.
Not to mention giving power to a terrorist group that does not deserve it. I'm not sure why some people want to do ISIS's marketing for them. Son of Sam said he killed because his dog told him to do it, it doesn't make it true. Agencies actually in the know have stated there is no connection, some internet posters seem to think they know better for some reason. The facts are in as far as that goes, there is no terrorist connection to this tragedy.
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I guess some internet posters only read the parts in red, so maybe it will help if I post THIS part in red.
according to Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
according to Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
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Facts: Closeted gay man and gun nut with a weakness for Hispanic tushy, shoots up gay Hispanic nightclub after being constantly rejected by gay Hispanic men via his grindr app.
The Right Wing: IT MUST BE RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISM!!! THERE CAN BE NO OTHER EXPLANATION!!!
The Right Wing: IT MUST BE RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISM!!! THERE CAN BE NO OTHER EXPLANATION!!!
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pepsilover wrote:I guess some internet posters only read the parts in red, so maybe it will help if I post THIS part in red.
according to Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
Did you even read what you the words directly before that. "What the gunman wrote" I don't care who is repeating what "the gunman wrote" or the gunman said. He was clearly crazy and he was clearly not affiliated with any terrorist groups. Those are the facts regardless of what your opinion is and regardless on who reports crazy things the gunman may have said. There is no affiliation period.
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Partmanpartfish wrote:Facts: Closeted gay man and gun nut with a weakness for Hispanic tushy, shoots up gay Hispanic nightclub after being constantly rejected by gay Hispanic men via his grindr app.
The Right Wing: IT MUST BE RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISM!!! THERE CAN BE NO OTHER EXPLANATION!!!
A half truth is still a lie. Telling are the other facts that you purposely left out.
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