Countries building border walls

[Hassel99]

I have no problem with walls, how else would you keep people you don't want out?

We are blessed with a neighbor who does not wish us harm....if we had another less collaborative neighbor we might be in the wall business ourselves

[cdawson]

It makes me sad.
Yes there are bad people. there always will be bad people.
But thinking of a time where every country is hidden behind a wall and in isolation, and in constant fear of any other ethnic group.

That makes for a pretty dim picture of a 'better' future' to my mind.

[Rosemary1]

The ultimate irony is there are more countries talking about walls than ever before at the same time that some political leaders, Canada's included are talking about global integration and citizenry. Yet no world power has been able to suppress the rising threat of extremist groups and factions that are not about integration but domination and suppression. Walls falsely seem to some, a means of protecting their own- call it 'grasping at walls.'

[ferri]

i thought of this wall thread when i read this article:

Costa Rica gets 100 illegal immigrants a day hoping to get to U.S.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-as ... e=facebook

[ferri]

i've changed the title of this thread so it is closer to the topic.

[averagejoe]

i've changed the title of this thread so it is closer to the topic.

Thanks!

[averagejoe]

Latvia Plans to Erect Anti-Migrant Fence on Border With Belarus




Latvian authorities are planning to construct a fence on the border with Belarus to prevent illegal migrants from attempting to get into the European Union.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20161113 ... der-fence/

[averagejoe]

World of walls: How 65 countries have erected fences on their borders – four times as many as when the Berlin Wall was toppled – as governments try to hold back the tide of migrants

Security fears and a widespread refusal to help refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building around the world
A third of the world's countries have completed or are building barriers – compared to 16 at the fall of the Berlin Wall
They include Israel's 'apartheid wall', India's 2,500-mile fence around Bangladesh and Morocco's huge sand 'berm'
Experts are dismissive, saying: 'Their main function is theatre. They provide the sense of security, not real security'

Globalisation was supposed to tear down barriers, but security fears and a widespread refusal to help migrants and refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building across the world, with a third of the world's countries constructing them along their borders.

When the Berlin Wall was torn down a quarter-century ago, there were 16 border fences around the world.

Today, there are 65 either completed or under construction, according to Quebec University expert Elisabeth Vallet.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rders.html

[averagejoe]

FOX 7 rides with U.S. Border Patrol to see what struggles they face

During the month of September, authorities arrested two undocumented immigrants in the Austin area for crimes including murder, aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping. Both of them had previously been deported more than twice.

During fiscal year 2016, which ended September 30, border patrol agents in the Rio Grande Valley sector apprehended about 500 undocumented immigrants per day.

(that's the only ones they caught and only one sector, there 19 other sectors along the border....)

http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-ne ... 9503-story

[Rosemary1]

There is nothing new for countries trying to protect their borders in some way. Its being gone forever and there are good reasons for it.

What is troublesome is that increasingly, the focus of the justification for tighter borders is the the painting of entire groups of people with the same negative brush in a way that incites widespread prejudice, distrust, and hate crimes against an entire group based on ethnic, racial or religious background.

[averagejoe]

There is nothing new for countries trying to protect their borders in some way. Its being gone forever and there are good reasons for it.

What is troublesome is that increasingly, the focus of the justification for tighter borders is the the painting of entire groups of people with the same negative brush in a way that incites widespread prejudice, distrust, and hate crimes against an entire group based on ethnic, racial or religious background.

It's called globalization of nations....

[Smurf]

To bring a bit of humor into this sad situation (sad that it is necessary to protect a country) I remember the news in Yuma reporting that border guards found a jeep perched on top of the border fence west of Yuma. Apparently some drug runners put up ramps and tried to drive the vehicle possibly full of marijuana over the fence. The vehicle got caught and was just sitting there.

I actually found a video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOeSgKs94t0

The fence is actually quite visible from the highway going west out of Yuma into California.

[averagejoe]

3 million? That's the same number of German soldiers used to attack Russia?

PANIC STATIONS: Secret plan to WALL OFF Europe if Turkey unleashes[b] '3m migrant tsunami[/b]

EUROPEAN countries have hatched a secret plan to frantically wall off the north of the continent if Turkey goes through with a threat to open the floodgates for millions of migrants, it emerged tonight.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/737 ... -agreement

[zzontar]

At the same time we are exploring other planets to relocate to in the future we are building walls to separate ourselves. Very sad. I say we do away with borders completely, integrate ourselves and see what comes out in the wash.

That would be like saying let's take the almost 2 trillion dollars per year the world spends on military budgets and use it to help us instead of to help destroy us, but as a whole it seems the human population prefers to spend money on destruction of our own species over preservation of our own species, so good luck on this one.

[Merry]

There's an old saying about how "strong fences make good neighbours" (or words to that effect), and it applies just as much to countries as it does to regular neighbourhoods.

In a world where some countries are far richer than others, there are always going to be citizens from poorer countries wanting to migrate to the richer countries. And that's fine, providing it's done in an organized and sustainable way. But as allowing hundreds of thousands of people to simply swarm across borders would lead to civil unrest in the receiving country, it would be irresponsible of any government to adopt such a policy.

In the case of the U.S. and Mexico, if illegal immigrants are being taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers (which they are) it would be in the best interest of both the immigrants and American workers to ensure that all those who move to the States do so legally. And if the only way to ensure that is to build a wall, then so be it.

Cost considerations ensure such a wall will probably never be built; but the argument for building such a wall is a sound one, whether it ever actually gets built or not. Because all that results from allowing a constant flow of illegal immigrants is a systemic abuse of the working classes (both the illegal and the legal).