Pipeline Protest

[Ken7]

I guess it comes down to greed, once you strike a deal should you keep your word? This group needs to be pushed to the side.

Protesters claim that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers failed to consult tribal leaders as required by federal law. The record shows that the corps held 389 meetings with 55 tribes. Corps officials met numerous times with leaders of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe, which initiated the lawsuit and the protests.


http://boereport.com/2016/11/08/what-th ... lling-you/

[westbankkid]

I guess it comes down to greed, once you strike a deal should you keep your word? This group needs to be pushed to the side.

Protesters claim that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers failed to consult tribal leaders as required by federal law. The record shows that the corps held 389 meetings with 55 tribes. Corps officials met numerous times with leaders of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe, which initiated the lawsuit and the protests.


http://boereport.com/2016/11/08/what-th ... lling-you/

The best thing to do with those troublemakers is keep arresting them whether they be Native or non-Native and jailing them till they stop breaking the law.

[maryjane48]

i see the cowboys opened up a thread again , facts are no one will be pushing anyone a side . why you believe a company over real people? is it because they are infact natives so they must be liars?

[westbankkid]

i see the cowboys opened up a thread again , facts are no one will be pushing anyone a side . why you believe a company over real people? is it because they are infact natives so they must be liars?

Hell. Trump will send in the army and straighten them out once and for all. He's completely in favour of the pipeline. Ù

[maryjane48]

lol not so fast , the lone ranger does not have them type of powers . you have to remember the yanks take their right to protest seriously, much more than canadians do , and it wont end like that there

[bernie428]

i see the cowboys opened up a thread again , facts are no one will be pushing anyone a side . why you believe a company over real people? is it because they are in fact natives so they must be liars?

What about the other side.
Because it's a business they are the liars?
Because, worse yet, it's an oil company, for sure they lie, and don't care about the environment?

What if in fact they realised they could get more loot, so they changed gears?
It is not like that has never happened.

[Ub2]

Pipelines at present puts fuel in my tank and food on the table . . . makes the world go 'round, natives do not.

[Ken7]

i see the cowboys opened up a thread again , facts are no one will be pushing anyone a side . why you believe a company over real people? is it because they are infact natives so they must be liars?

The COWBOYS... Ha, get a life.

Just like those on the line, they need to move on and get a real job. It is apparent all the effort was put into this and even taken to the courts. I agree they should be locked up for a unlawful protest! Breach of Peace I call it.

Must add did you even take the time to read the article from top to bottom, further do you understand what was read? Apparently those protesting don't know what efforts have been made either to satisfy all involved.

[GenesisGT]

I always like to get a third party's opinion when two sides are so far apart on an issue. With this in mind I have read the United States District Court Opinion (see link). The court found that beside the fact that the tribe continually cancelled meetings, didn't show up or even removed from the agenda the topic when both parties were at a meeting, the findings of the court are significantly different then what the tribe contends. A few highlights on the findings if you do not want to read a 58 page document.

Both sides provided their versions of the story which are documented in the opinion, and the tribe could not prove any of their allegations that the Corps or the company had not done their due diligence before construction began.

http://mwalliancenow.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Document-39.pdf

In seeking preliminary-injunctive relief here, the Standing Rock Sioux do not claim that a
potential future rupture in the pipeline could damage their reserved land or water. Instead, they
point to an entirely separate injury: the likelihood that DAPL’s ongoing construction activities –
specifically, grading and clearing of land – might damage or destroy sites of great cultural or
historical significance to the Tribe. The risk that harm might befall such sites is a matter of
unquestionable importance to the Standing Rock people

The Tribe has not sued Dakota Access here for any transgressions;
instead, this Motion seeks to enjoin Corps permitting of construction activities in discrete U.S.
waterways along the pipeline route. Such relief sought cannot stop the construction of DAPL on
private lands, which are not subject to any federal law. Indeed, Standing Rock does not point the
Court to any law violated by the private contracts that allow for this construction or any federal regulation or oversight of these activities.

Here
again, then, the Tribe has not shown for this substantial segment of the pipeline that any
additional harm is likely to occur to cultural sites absent the preliminary injunction that it now
seeks

And then there was one: Lake Oahe. This is the sole permitting that the Tribe might
arguably show is likely to cause harm to cultural or historic sites of significance to it. As
previously discussed, Lake Oahe is of undeniable importance to the Tribe, and the general area is
demonstrably home to important cultural resources. Even here, though, the Tribe has not met its
burden to show that DAPL-related work is likely to cause damage. The Corps and the Tribe
conducted multiple visits to the area earlier this year in an effort to identify sites that might be
harmed by DAPL’s construction. See Eagle Decl., ¶¶ 13-14; Harnois Decl., ¶ 29. While the
Tribe identified several previously undiscovered resources during those visits, these sites are
located away from the activity required for the DAPL construction

IV. Conclusion As it has previously mentioned, this Court does not lightly countenance any depredation
of lands that hold significance to the Standing Rock Sioux. Aware of the indignities visited upon
the Tribe over the last centuries, the Court scrutinizes the permitting process here with particular
care. Having done so, the Court must nonetheless conclude that the Tribe has not demonstrated
that an injunction is warranted here. The Court, therefore, will issue a contemporaneous Order
denying the Plaintiffs’ Motion for Preliminary Injunction.

[maryjane48]

Hundreds of US military veterans have joined activists in North Dakota protesting against the installation of a multi-billion dollar oil pipeline.
The activists, who are demonstrating in sub-zero temperatures, have been ordered to leave the area by Monday.


Environmental activists and military veterans have since joined the protests. The veterans' group is led by Michael Wood Jr, a former US Marine and Baltimore police officer.
Police deployed at the protests have been accused of beating peaceful protesters.
In a video statement, Mr Wood Jr said: "If the cops there want to be state-sanctioned agents to brutally beat non-violent veterans, that have served their country honourably - if they're going to beat us - then that should be the signal to the rest of the world of what our country's doing."



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38188624


this will make for interesting situation , military vets protecting the first nations protecting the water .

[Rosemary1]

Not unusual . Truth if usually found somewhere in the middle of two opposing sides.

[maryjane48]

the thing is they not protesting the pipeline, they are protesting the route

[maryjane48]

The Standing Rock Sioux tribe and others say the pipeline north of the reservation could pollute drinking water and threatens sacred sites and want changes made to its route.

this is from castanets story on this issue and it is clear they just want the route changed and pipeline can go ahead . is it really that much to ask?

[Ka-El]

it is clear they just want the route changed and pipeline can go ahead . is it really that much to ask?

I agree. The pipeline is important but accommodations could and should be made.

[Pat-Taporter]

BREAKING: Dakota protesters WIN their bid to stop pipeline being built through Standing Rock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Rock.html

. . .

'Instead, the Corps will be undertaking an environmental impact statement to look at possible alternate routes.

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'The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe will forever be grateful to the Obama administration for this historic decision.' 

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