Trump and the right

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Hmmmm....

David Duke and the KKK is okey....?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/con ... interview/

Conway blabbed incessantly in this interview.
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Trump has lots of faults but the narrative that some are trying to paint is garbage. As Conway said:

Conway claimed that Trump has “been very clear in disavowing” people and groups associated with the right.


Very true. Time to move on.
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George+ wrote:Hmmmm....

David Duke and the KKK is okey....?
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What would you do if David Duke and the 6,000 KKK members in the US started posting that they were now big fans of George+, would you disavow them? And if you did, and people still were insulting you and saying that somehow you are now a KKK guy, would you be angry? Would you consider this to be unfair?
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If they said they liked the BCTF he would line up for a hood.
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Maybe the three of ya should have actually read the article??

"Conway claimed that Trump has “been very clear in disavowing” people and groups associated with the right. But Trump refused to do so during the campaign, once famously saying during an interview on CNN that he would not disavow the support of David Duke, a former leader of the Klu Klux Klan.

At the New York Times meeting, Trump said he would not have named Steve Bannon, the former executive chairman of Breitbart News, as his White House chief strategist if he believed Bannon’s news site was a platform for the right.

The claim stands in contrast to Bannon’s comment, in an interview with Mother Jones at the Republican National Convention in July, that Breitbart News is “the platform for the right.”

Shamelessly cheering for Trump and the B.C. Liberals, no matter, what does not look good on ya.
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George+ wrote:
But Trump refused to do so during the campaign,


George this is total liberal media echo chamber lies and total garbage. Why am I not surprised you are the one spouting this nonsense? Shame on you.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/ ... -duke-kkk/

From March 3, 2016:

Donald Trump issued a crystal clear disavowal Thursday of former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke after stumbling last weekend over a question about the hate group leader on CNN.

"David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now."


Liberal Media Echo Chamber wrote: once famously saying during an interview on CNN that he would not disavow the support of David Duke, a former leader of the Klu Klux Klan.


That's not what happened at all, but why am I not surprised you are totally spinning this total crap?

The uproar started on Sunday when Trump was asked by CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" if he would disavow Duke and other white supremacist groups supporting his campaign.
"Just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK?" Trump responded.
The next day, Trump blamed a "bad earpiece" during an appearance on NBC's "Today" show.


Shamelessly cheering for Trump and the B.C. Liberals, no matter, what does not look good on ya.


and shamelessly cheering for the disgusting NDP and the even more disgusting BCTF does not look good on you.
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Veovis wrote:If they said they liked the BCTF he would line up for a hood.


ha ha and light the cross on fire on his front lawn.
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The 'right' is a hate movement, and it's scarier than you think

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... [Richard] Spencer views most non-white races as genetically inferior, has a deep mistrust of Jewish people and associates with neo-Nazis. He wants to see Europeans and people of European descent “protected” from other races through state-sponsored segregation. The list goes on.

However, it’s Spencer’s deft packaging of this hate speech that made him the informal head of the self-styled “right,” a movement of quasi- to full-blown fascist writers, listless brown shirts and disgruntled meme creators. He feints at multiculturalism, expressing his respect for “Native Americans,” the “spirituality” of African-Americans and the aforementioned “allies of color.” His white nationalist spouting is filed with academic jargon ― founding an organization with the distinctly bland name “National Policy Institute” and calling one’s movement “right” is no small part of that strategy. All this is not a new approach, but one Spencer is chillingly good at.

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Spencer exudes the same kind of millennial élan as a lot of the young professional white guys in Washington D.C., with his clean-cut face framed by an angular jaw, square chin and neatly cropped “high and tight” haircut ― a ‘do that might once have been associated with the Hitler Youth, but now is far more likely to recall actor Ryan Gosling. He’s a neat dresser, and if he weren’t spouting off about Muslim gangs or the need to give preferential treatment to European immigrants or how women like being raped, Spencer could just as easily be one of those dime-a-dozen yuppies who have way too many opinions about IPAs and “fun” socks.

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Trump’s election could complete this political Frankenstein monster, according to Spencer’s thinking. The high-profile racism and bigotry that has erupted since Nov. 8 has been unapologetically confrontational and intimidating: the Klu Klux Klan holding a “victory” rally in North Carolina, spray-painted swastikas cropping up on playgrounds and untold number of acts of bigotry directed at individuals later reported on social media.

It’s cold comfort, but this kind of vileness cannot easily be incorporated into our institutions of power. A person who walks into a congressional office in a white hood asking for a meeting about the Jewish pestilence isn’t likely to get very far, but a clean-cut guy exuding the same white-collar blandness as that annoying guy at work who won’t shut up about his kickball league or Trunk Club membership is another story.

That’s what makes Richard Spencer and the National Policy Institute so scary. A well-spoken graduate of the University of Virginia rambling about arcane-sounding things like, say, our “identitarian school curriculum” just might change some minds. Spencer has insisted that he is not in contact with Trump or his transition team, but added that he is impressed by putative administration figures like Steve Bannon and attorney general nominee Jeff Sessions.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/ ... id=SL5MDHP
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Here's an excellent Slate article on the right.

Basically, the right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity—which is racist, obviously. It’s people who believe that if Western civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Western civilization. As you may notice, this has nothing to do with the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence. It has nothing to do actually with Western civilization. The whole principle of Western civilization is that anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values. That’s not what the right believes—at least its leading thinkers, people like Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor and Vox Day.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... _turn.html
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What's kind of interesting is there's also an left movement and a large percentage of people who identify themselves as left don't think that a dictatorship is necessarily a bad thing.
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techrtr wrote:What's kind of interesting is there's also an left movement and a large percentage of people who identify themselves as left don't think that a dictatorship is necessarily a bad thing.

Reading some of the comments sometimes made by some folk here and realizing they get to vote ...

Maybe they're right :smt045

(don't take that too seriously)
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techrtr wrote:What's kind of interesting is there's also an left movement and a large percentage of people who identify themselves as left don't think that a dictatorship is necessarily a bad thing.


Yes, that was abundantly clear from their glowing eulogies about Fidel Castro. Some even had the audacity to talk about how Fidel "freed" millions of people. Ask the average Cuban how free he feels (but you'll have to do it somewhere where he doesn't think he is being recorded).
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There is no "right" There is just Right. right is just a Hillary media construct just like calling constitutionalist who want the government to follow existing laws "Deplorables" The democrats are in free fall as are the liberals here in Trudopeia
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monilynno wrote:There is no "right" There is just Right. right is just a Hillary media construct just like calling constitutionalist who want the government to follow existing laws "Deplorables" The democrats are in free fall as are the liberals here in Trudopeia


You are right that there is no right. They are white supremists. I wish the media would start calling them what they actually are.
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whatwhat, Your like the radio station that keeps playing the same song over and over in the hopes it will sell the song to the public, problem is no one is buying it. "White supremacists" White supremacists, White supremacists, White supremacists with no basis in fact.

Just remember the KKK is a Democrat organization and last year Planned parenthood killed more black babies in New York than were born.
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