Trump discussion

[the truth]

obama had 8 years to deal and fix this mess and did nothing ,

[Poindexter]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-206934-5-.htm#206934

"Total destruction" to the regime, or the entire country? Does that bleed into China or how will China react? How does South Korea come into this? Does Japan play a role?

There is no military option, plain and simple, and these are just more words that Trump will be dining on. If Obama had said the same thing the GOP would be all over him for damaging the US's credibility because it's an empty threat. Much like the time Obama drew a red line in Syria and they tore him to shreds. The hypocrisy of Republicans never ceases to amaze.

[Ka-El]

The hypocrisy of Republicans never ceases to amaze.

Like the right posters around here who love to throw the term around while wearing the label themselves. Disgusting.

[Omnitheo]

obama had 8 years to deal and fix this mess and did nothing ,

To fix what mess? A sovereign nation developing weapons? What authority does the US have to "deal with and fix it". Would you allow the US to tell Canada we can't develop technology?

Should NK attack another country, or violate international law, that's another story.

“It’s not something that lends itself to an easy solution. We could, obviously, destroy North Korea with our arsenals. But aside from the humanitarian costs of that, they are right next door to our vital ally, Republic of Korea. One of the things that we have been doing is spending a lot more time positioning our missile defense systems, so that even as we try to resolve the underlying problem of nuclear development inside of North Korea, we’re also setting up a shield that can at least block the relatively low-level threats that they’re posing right now.”

The problems of NK are nothing new. Your statement could just as easily be "Bush had 8 years to deal and fix this mess and did nothing"

Unfortunately the situation is not so simple, and I doubt any world leader wants to be remembered as a war criminal

[Poindexter]

Should NK attack another country, or violate international law, that's another story.

Maybe that's exactly what they need to do to make it on Trump's nice list, sure worked for Russia.

[The Green Barbarian]

Like the right posters around here who love to throw the term around while wearing the label themselves. Disgusting.

Total agree. Both left and right posters here are disgusting.

Just like the View is disgusting for firing their conservative host for being "too hard" on evil dung beetle Hilary Clinton...

http://deadline.com/2017/09/jedediah-bi ... 202172525/

[Omnitheo]

Russia had a casus belli. Admittedly a weak one. Their reasoning was that the region of Crimea had been traditionally Russian, and that Russian nationals and descendants were now in jeopardy in the wake of Ukraine's civil war. Russia previously used this during the Georgia/South Ossetia invasion a few years ago. And indeed numerous other countries have gone to war and taken land under the same CB. Sure most countries aren't happy about it, but they aren't willing to go to war with Russia over it.

Trade sanctions are the typical response these days when countries don't play nice. For NK that isn't a huge deterrent however. So what can be done? Unless they do more than rattle sabers, or something that actively constitutes an "act of war". There's no reason to invade them. No legal reasons anyways.

[Queen K]

Simply put the American Health care system is screwed. Americans are screwed.

Anyone with "pre-exisiting conditions" is screwed because anything can be held up as a pre-existing condition and Americans can be priced out of healthcare simply by existing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/ ... index.html

Of course the pre-existing condition part is buried way way down in the article. Watch the vid, it sums it up nicely.

[Queen K]

Cassidy and President Donald Trump say individuals with pre-existing conditions are guaranteed protection in this bill. Outside analysts, insurers, advocacy group say they aren't. Who's right? CNN has been explaining this for days, but here's my take: The nuance here is important:
- Yes, the bill maintains the Obamacare ban on insurers denying someone a plan because of a pre-existing condition
- No, it doesn't explicitly get rid of the price protections for those with pre-existing conditions (community rating)
Here's what it does: The bill allows individual states to obtain waivers to drop the mandate for price protections. It incentivizes them to do so, actually. In exchange, a state must show it can provide "adequate and affordable" coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. Here's the problem: "adequate and affordable" aren't defined. The waiver process appears hardly rigorous on its face. Outside analysts say unequivocally this opens the door to a loosening of the regulations.

[maryjane48]

Total agree. Both left and right posters here are disgusting.

there is no left . but there is a right. as described by steve bannon and rebel media. wheres a link to any group calling themselves left

[maryjane48]

Cassidy and President Donald Trump say individuals with pre-existing conditions are guaranteed protection in this bill. Outside analysts, insurers, advocacy group say they aren't. Who's right? CNN has been explaining this for days, but here's my take: The nuance here is important:
- Yes, the bill maintains the Obamacare ban on insurers denying someone a plan because of a pre-existing condition
- No, it doesn't explicitly get rid of the price protections for those with pre-existing conditions (community rating)
Here's what it does: The bill allows individual states to obtain waivers to drop the mandate for price protections. It incentivizes them to do so, actually. In exchange, a state must show it can provide "adequate and affordable" coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. Here's the problem: "adequate and affordable" aren't defined. The waiver process appears hardly rigorous on its face. Outside analysts say unequivocally this opens the door to a loosening of the regulations.

what it does is put it on the states to pay for the extras . which most wont do . theres no way around the fact anything less than single payer is cruel treatment of a countrys own people

[The Green Barbarian]

there is no left . but there is a right.

sorry but that's just garbage. Of course there is an left. Buzzfeed, Vox, all of those horrible leftist fake news generating sites are part of the left.

[Omnitheo]

What are you even talking about? When has Vox ever tried to incite violence or spread hatred?

Please show me an example of one of these "horrible fake news" articles

[forum]

Did Trump drop the bomb yet?

[Ka-El]

Trump tweets threats against N.Korea after UN speech

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Twitter on Saturday North Korea's Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho and leader Kim Jong Un "won't be around much longer" if Ri echoed the thoughts of "Little Rocket Man," an apparent reference to Kim.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/tru ... &ocid=iehp

Agent Orange sure likes to talk tough. Just about time to put up or shut up little man.