Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby RupertBear » Jan 31st, 2018, 11:25 am

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... r-never-h/[/quote]

Right, like no one ever threatened her over her allegations. Clear as day.[/quote]

Hello Miss Stormie? This is Michael Cohen. You remember me, I cut you that cheque for $130,000 to keep you from talking about your affair with my boy Donald.
If you don't stop mentioning your three minutes of bliss and start denying the affair took place, we are going to have to ask for our money back.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby The Green Barbarian » Jan 31st, 2018, 11:46 am

A GOP source texts: "As a Republican I love how at the end of the day, after all their years of crap about identity politics...Democrats picked a white dude from one of the most privileged families in America to do the response."
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Poindexter » Jan 31st, 2018, 5:30 pm

Guess that indicates they've put identity politics behind them.

Isn't that what you said they should do? :135:
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby JLives » Jan 31st, 2018, 6:52 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:A GOP source texts: "As a Republican I love how at the end of the day, after all their years of crap about identity politics...Democrats picked a white dude from one of the most privileged families in America to do the response."


What, they're not allowed to pick the best person for the job?
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Queen K » Feb 2nd, 2018, 12:06 am

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/02/ic ... ornia.html

ICE is raiding businesses after giving three days notice to prove their employees are legit.
It must be nice to live in an Ivory Tower, where everyone else makes mistakes. I have no idea what an ivory tower looks like.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby ferri » Feb 2nd, 2018, 11:41 am

“When someone is nasty or treats you poorly, don't take it personally. It says nothing about you, but a lot about them.” ― Michael Josephson

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Merry » Feb 2nd, 2018, 12:01 pm

Interesting read; it certainly sounds as though the FBI didn't do enough digging to determine whether or not their source of information may have had a political agenda. So even if we assume that the FBI didn't have such an agenda themselves, it still points to sloppy workmanship on their part.

It's not surprising they didn't want this memo released.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Verum » Feb 2nd, 2018, 12:08 pm

ferri wrote:"The" memo has been released:


https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/docum ... memo/2746/

It's important to understand that the memo was prepared by a politician and not an independent or non-partisan expert. The annotated copy makes for interesting reading:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/02/the-full-nunes-memo-annotated/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_memoannotation-105pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.ed0fb382aa57#annotations:13727711

Edit: This document is basically completely rejected by the FBI and that it's contents are certainly a spin on the truth
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Poindexter » Feb 2nd, 2018, 2:34 pm

This FISA warrant the memo calls into question took over a year to receive and was read by four judges before approval. It's a ridiculous accusation to say all four were in on some conspiracy but coming from Nunes, that shouldn't shock anyone. What is shocking however, is how many Republicans are willing to put thier credibility on the line for this embarrassingly transparent partisan hack job.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Poindexter » Feb 3rd, 2018, 8:37 am

So let's get this straight. Even though it's known that other evidence was presented to the FISA committee to get the warrant, let's take take Nunes at his word anyway.

The dossier was the only reason the FBI received warrants and opened an investigation into Russian collusion. So if a dossier written by a former secret service agent, the same guy who brought down FIFA, isn't credible enough to open an investigation, then why is Nunes leading an investigation into the FBI that came as a result of a "fake news" story out of Fox about Obama tapping Trump's phone?
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Ka-El » Feb 3rd, 2018, 8:50 am

Poindexter wrote: So let's get this straight. Even though it's known that other evidence was presented to the FISA committee to get the warrant, let's take take Nunes at his word anyway.

The “memo” was four pages, from a document that would have been a couple dozen of pages at least. What other evidence was included in the request for a warrant that provided enough reason for a judge to grant the request? Why isn’t any of what was contained in the rest of the document “leaked” to the public? The blatant hypocrisy of the alt-right is appalling.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Poindexter » Feb 3rd, 2018, 10:41 am

The blatant hypocrisy of the alt-right is appalling.


It's why Trump was never successful when he ran as a Democrat. He would never have been able to get away with what he has as a Republican. That's because with the GOP, willfully lying to the public and blatant hypocrisy had already been baked into the cake.

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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby christopher » Feb 3rd, 2018, 11:46 am

Poindexter wrote:
The blatant hypocrisy of the alt-right is appalling.


It's why Trump was never successful when he ran as a Democrat. He would never have been able to get away with what he has as a Republican. That's because with the GOP, willfully lying to the public and blatant hypocrisy had already been baked into the cake.


No one I KNOW likes Trump he is in office BECAUSE the Democrats pushed Clinton any one who could back her needed to lose.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Ka-El » Feb 3rd, 2018, 12:54 pm

christopher wrote: No one I KNOW likes Trump he is in office BECAUSE the Democrats pushed Clinton any one who could back her needed to lose.

Indeed, the DNC failed the American electorate completely by pushing Clinton as their candidate. Remember though, it is the Republicans who allowed the imbecile Trump to be their nominee. Quite the cost being paid in America right now.
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Re: Trump Administration: First Hundred Days and Beyond.

Postby Poindexter » Feb 3rd, 2018, 2:26 pm

Within the span of the last year, Trump and the GOP have smeared the reputations of countless fellow Republicans. Comey, Mueller, McCain, Bannon, Rosenberg, and Sessions are just a few that come to mind. These were lifelong Republicans that they managed to turn thier base against with relative ease.

So it isn't a stretch to say that over the years the GOP have become extremely effective in the art of the smear campaign. Knowing thier prowess and that Hillary had been in the crosshairs of thier smear machine for the better part of 10 years, it's actually quite surprising that she still managed to win the popular vote.

I also think that if one takes into account the current governing party's unpresidented level of maleficence and ineptitude, that regardless of who the Democrat's candidate was, they would be doing a far better job and the US wouldn't be the embarrassment it's become with the "Banana Republicans" running the show.

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