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“Ban all politics from classrooms.”

I agree.
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averagejoe wrote:Parents: Prepare your kids for left-wing campus bias
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By the time the kids make it to university it's already too late, they've been exposed to 12 years of left-wing bias already from their unionized leftist teachers.



What is it with the right wing wanting to keep people uneducated?
Might have something to do with education demographics to voting results...
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averagejoe; your use of socialism is a bit vague, what type of socialism would you be referring to? My guess would be Revolutionary Socialism, but there are others; Democratic Socialism; Utopian Socialism; Libertarian Socialism; Market Socialism; Eco-Socialism; Christian Socialism.

Not all of these forms of socialism have communism as a goal.
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averagejoe wrote:Parents: Prepare your kids for left-wing campus bias
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By the time the kids make it to university it's already too late, they've been exposed to 12 years of left-wing bias already from their unionized leftist teachers.

Omnitheo wrote:
What is it with the right wing wanting to keep people uneducated?
Might have something to do with education demographics to voting results...

Thinking critically here, I can see where you've conflated two issues. I'd hypothesize it takes bias to see "keep people uneducated" in GB's post.
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LANDM wrote:Do you think it is a good thing to send your children to university and have them only exposed to ideas that they were raised with?
Wouldn't a skill set in critical thinking be advantageous?
Wouldn't seeing entirely different points of view be better?

One of the advantages of university is getting exposure to very different types of people and thoughts.

Evidently not all parents want their kids exposed to any environment where they may actually see things from a new or different perspective that may lead them to question their parents beliefs or ideals.
An example being parents who send their kids to Christian schools, and then to ultra conservative Christian universities such as Trinity Western where the entire faculty must pass an annual faith test....and all students must sign a contract that they'll strictly adhere to the strict evangelical teachings of the bible during their time at the university. Critical thinking is not tolerated at these types of right-wing universities.
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BeingHuman wrote:averagejoe; your use of socialism is a bit vague, what type of socialism would you be referring to? My guess would be Revolutionary Socialism, but there are others; Democratic Socialism; Utopian Socialism; Libertarian Socialism; Market Socialism; Eco-Socialism; Christian Socialism.

Not all of these forms of socialism have communism as a goal.


Read my posting on comrades Lenin's comment....
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The Green Barbarian wrote:...
This is why there should be no bias, either left or right, in the classroom.

This is just impossible. The problem is that bias is a hard topic and what may be biased to you may not be to me. Is it left-wing to teach that climate change is fact? How about evolution? Or the level of inequality of wealth and income in society? All of these will be seen as left-wing by some, but are actually facts, or at least scientific orthodoxy and measurable statistics.

Right now in classrooms across BC, clueless and ignorant leftist teachers are teaching their leftist ignorance to children. This isn't right, just as it wouldn't be right if they were teaching right ideology. Ban all politics from classrooms.

Again, this is impossible and actually very counter productive to try. Essentially it would require turning the whole education system into a "safe-space". You cannot effectively teach history without bringing in the political context, this is true for literature too, and even science is often accused of being biased and political (evolution and climate change are the two most attacked, but so are Universe origin theories, the benefits of certain medical treatments, etc.). Most teachers do attempt to check their biases and personal values at the door and try to not influence the students beyond teaching what is socially deemed appropriate. If nothing else, no teacher wants to have to have a conversation with irate parents who are angry that their beliefs and indoctrination has been challenged by modern education. If something is not on the syllabus, it's very hard to defend from over-protective parents.
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Omnitheo wrote:What is it with the right wing wanting to keep people uneducated?


It's not really an education if all you are doing is teaching leftist garbage and outright lies in order to indoctrinate people into failed and backward ideologies. This is why it was so stupid that the few idiots who spoke favorably of Castro after he died (including our own airhead PM) were lauding how he brought in "free education". But it wasn't education. It was free indoctrination, and completely worthless in the real world.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:It's not really an education if all you are doing is teaching leftist garbage and outright lies in order to indoctrinate people into failed and backward ideologies. This is why it was so stupid that the few idiots who spoke favorably of Castro after he died (including our own airhead PM) were lauding how he brought in "free education". But it wasn't education. It was free indoctrination, and completely worthless in the real world.


Well said! :smt045
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The Green Barbarian wrote:It's not really an education if all you are doing is teaching leftist garbage and outright lies in order to indoctrinate people into failed and backward ideologies.

Thankfully this doesn't happen in Canada, or you would have (larger) throngs of parents complaining to the schools about the education they are providing.

This is why it was so stupid that the few idiots who spoke favorably of Castro after he died (including our own airhead PM) were lauding how he brought in "free education". But it wasn't education. It was free indoctrination, and completely worthless in the real world.

Actually, while there certainly is indoctrination in countries like Cuba, there is a lot of quality education going on there too. In particular, their doctors seem to be fairly competent and are generally considered resourceful and diligent. Of course, there are major problems there too, but not usually around the quality of the education.

Additionally, there are some rather nationalistic and indoctrinating aspects to Canadian education. The fact is that most education systems tend to portray the country in which they are taught as rather more perfect than it truly is, especially from a foreign policy point of view. Obviously, this is not a good thing, but were students taught about the bad stuff done by Canada, some would accuse the system of being left biased and unpatriotic, so instead, in some ways it remains right biased.
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I remember how my left wing Canadian history education covered the abuses of the indigenous population and residential schools. Or how Canada turned away so many polish immigrants trying to flee for their lives from nazi Germany.

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Omnitheo wrote:I remember how my left wing Canadian history education covered the abuses of the indigenous population and residential schools. Or how Canada turned away so many polish immigrants trying to flee for their lives from nazi Germany.

Ha just kidding.

You didn't learn about that is school? You must be OLD! Not that I'm ageist, I just thought you were in the 25 to 30 range for some reason.

As for left-wing bias, I've said before my views turned right, but that's because I studied science at university. Had I studied the humanities, I might have gone left. The one humanities course I did take was geopolitics from a left-wing perspective, and I believed it until I took economics.

An excellent view from Jonathan Haidt. "The humanities are full of illiberal leftists."

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The Green Barbarian wrote:If you actually went to university, like I did, you'd know that this comment is a flaming barrel of horse-dung.


So you're seriously arguing that when you attended university your profs deliberately halted lectures and starting trying to "indoctrinate" kids with leftist views? Really?

What university did you attend? Any examples of these brainwashing sessions?
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JollyGreenBully wrote:
The Green Barbarian wrote:If you actually went to university, like I did, you'd know that this comment is a flaming barrel of horse-dung.


So you're seriously arguing that when you attended university your profs deliberately halted lectures and starting trying to "indoctrinate" kids with leftist views? Really?

What university did you attend? Any examples of these brainwashing sessions?

What you have to remember is that some people consider anthropogenic climate change as a leftist view.
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neilsimon wrote:What you have to remember is that some people consider anthropogenic climate change as a leftist view.


So what? What does teaching something like climate change have to do with profs stopping lectures in order to brainwash kids?

Green Barbarian said he attended university and that my comment that profs don't deliberately stop lectures to brainwash kids is a barrel of horse dung. I'd like some direct examples of people in this thread who experienced brainwashing by profs. No, not idiot professors in the US - people in this thread.

How exactly did your profs attempt to brainwash you, GB? Did you report this cultist brainwashing to the police or other authority like the dean of the university?
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